BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Hence the "lead-in".... of "most".
How do they feel, when your Local trades them in exchange for a discharge case ?
Your Local does that.... right ?
-Bug-
So who won the debate?
- Thread starter wide load
- Start date
Hence the "lead-in".... of "most".
How do they feel, when your Local trades them in exchange for a discharge case ?
Your Local does that.... right ?
-Bug-
10 point
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Again, you need to reread the posts replied to before you dilute or modify people's responses and posts.Hence the "lead-in".... of "most".
How do they feel, when your Local trades them in exchange for a discharge case ?
Your Local does that.... right ?
-Bug-
The trade offs were being referred to as a panel issue. Not local. Not that I'm bragging on local support because we're not.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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My reference to trade offs was at the local level.
UPS Preloader
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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with any of that. I'm addressing the fact that @wide load stated that the 6 hour shifts/no overtime after 5 hours were put into place by Z, which is incorrect. It happened under H&H and yes, it still continues under H&H and Z today.
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See now that's where the train is off the track. Your "most" referred to feeder drivers on radios or cell phones.Hence the "lead-in".... of "most".
I saw your separate challenge to "Show me one, that has the balls to file a grievance" and responded.
Anyway you want to paint it, it was a shot at feeder drivers, in poor taste. I'm used to it from upper UPS guys, just not Big Union Guys.
Whatbrownwontdoforyou
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H and H are on your local board? Your supplement is handled by the local e board........Fred flip flopped on that issue also blamed his predecessor,sued him,and the paid him to advise him........Fred doesn't know what to do.........he's good at critisizing blaming and passing the buck
UPS Preloader
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Once again, all I'm stating is that per KH, the 6 hour shifts/no overtime after 5 hours was put into effect the day before FZ took office.
Whatbrownwontdoforyou
Well-Known Member
That's not what you said you blamed that deal on h and h.......and it wasn't it was z and his buddies
UPS Preloader
Well-Known Member
How could it Z's fault if it happened the day before he took office?
Whatbrownwontdoforyou
Well-Known Member
Did z hire the guy that put that in place as an advisor? Ok so the guy that we all think is an idiot for creating 6 hour jobs,z pays him for his opinions and advice.......I thought z wouldn't want that guy around being he messed up enough
Lead Belly
BANNED
Suck ain't that smart.
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
Sorry, my access to all of the grievances in every local across the country is somewhat lacking. If you give me a few hours, Lord Font de Leroi, I can get you photo copies and SS numbers to everyone involved.
Do you think I making this up? Do your homework and search "feeders" and you will find examples, if you privileged digits will allow you. Or, just keep your head in the sand and hope for the best.
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
Yep, says the guy who has wonders whether or not UPS is actually subcontracting bargaining work.
I guess all of the yellow copies in the feeder department are just so we can pretend to impress a BigUnionGuy like you. If only we had a hero like yourself back here in feeders...but then, you have no knowledge of management's activities under your own nose, so don't mind us, we'll just go grab an alternate with his eyes open.
I searched it but on all that was coming up were TDU articles.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
After rereading my previous post;
It wasn't my intention to offend, but I can understand the perception.
Bug, is certainly not above offering an apology for the "perceived" transgression.
But.... I won't say I'm sorry.
There is a difference.
-Bug-
There are only a handful of BrownCafe members, whose opinion I respect.
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Nothing wrong with saying your sorry, people will respect you more. ........not less.
Spongebob1
Well-Known Member
Lies, and more lies, and talk about twisting an e-mail,
Fred sent that e-mail before the IRB report and Fred stated that at the debate! Fred didn't give one dime to the Slawsons,.....
The steward was punished,.. a co-worker got in his face and he shoved him, that's it, no punches, no blood, no arrest, K.H tried to make this into a huge criminal act, and it was a shove, read the report! The steward was banned from being a delegate, and Vegas, but H kept trying to deflect from the R.A scandal,
The same with the Ohio Conference, another failure by K.H, and J.H...
K.H twisted the facts once again, Voith was lie, in fact a huge lie, friend. won 21.5 million in back pay,...
Another big lie was (friend.Z taking full time jobs to part time 6 hour jobs) =big lie,
Another big lie from H, was why the low voter turn out, he said cuz everyone is just so happy with their contract,..... Bull,... Visit the barns and here all the discontent,.
K.H twisted the truth and lied so many times I don't know how friend kept from knocking him out!
Oh and btw,... In the debate room, on H's side it was all IBT, and on friend's side it was all rank and file, they came on their own time and dime, not the Hofficers, they came on the members dime, driving and using Union resources, there's a video of it to!
What was H talking about when he said "delegates, retaliation against a member"? Was that a lie?
Bubblehead
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...and conversely, it is likely there are only a handful of BrownCafe members who care.
Personally I try to respect most of the opinions of most BrownCafe members, even when I don't agree, as it gives me perspective.
When you think you know it all, you become a liability.
~Bbbl~