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Syria
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
Wutchoo smokin nite?
wkmac
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Couldn't agree more but the problem is our very monetary system is directly tied to oil. Made worse by the fact that there is no will to break it nor are those in power willing to allow it to be broken in the first place. Thus there is no desire to move beyond oil even in the face of the obvious.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I don't know why I find this so funny or even funny, but I do!
This is like the fourth time I've run across this tonight and it gets funnier every time.
It will be fine
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The market is moving everything away from oil. Tesla is exposing the demand for quality electric cars. The big auto makers are scrambling trying to catch up. Solar, wind and natural gas are killing the coal industry. There is constant research going on to improve battery tech. It's slower progress than I'd like but the market is finding solutions for our oil dependance. If it weren't for government subsidies for oil and gas, renewables would already be dominant.
wkmac
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I don't disagree but the gov't has a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. The other part of this equation which gets much, much deeper is that energy itself is made to be scarce rather than spread out and in abundance. Their idea of energy is fossil fuel based but solar, wind and other such forms represent a threat to the energy hegemony because the new forms are decentralized, even down to the scale of the individual.
Going back to my earlier point of the monetization of energy into the form known as the oil or petro dollar, as long as that linkage exists, all other potential source of energy will remain at a disadvantage because oil will be given privileged status as it is now. Would we even be in Syria if not for oil in the greater region?
Even with Syria, laying hidden in the weeds of all this conflict is still the ago old problem of oil!
Yet with Syria we talk about everything else but that.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Spending on renewables declined by 25% in 2016; granted, much of that was due to lower prices and higher tax credits.
Sportello
Well-Known Member
It's Raytheon that makes Tomahawks. Trumps owns the stock (no record of selling). Gen Mattis sat on the board at General Dynamics, so that's a good bet, too.
Mattis has divested, Trump, not so much.
Buy tobacco, too. Those grunts in the sandbox are gonna need smokes.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
But I can guarantee you that they will be replaced so in the end the money will still be spent.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
It's a play ... just for show.
He wanted to make sure no Ruskies were collateral damage.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
SOP.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Syria is basically a 3-way civil war in which 2 sides hate us and one side strongly dislikes us. We have no role to play there.
However...the case could perhaps be made that chemical weapons are so horrific that we are morally obligated to retaliate with punitive air/missile strikes against anyone who uses them against civilians.
If that is to be our policy though, then it needs to be authorized ahead of time by Congress and only carried out against legitimate, defined military targets.
Notifying the Russians hours ahead of time about a token, symbolic strike against an airfield that is conveniently evacuated and subsequently repaired in a day doesn't accomplish anything, except to waste $100 million worth of Tomahawks (and to distract the public's attention away from the complete and utter
show that is the US Presidency.)
However...the case could perhaps be made that chemical weapons are so horrific that we are morally obligated to retaliate with punitive air/missile strikes against anyone who uses them against civilians.
If that is to be our policy though, then it needs to be authorized ahead of time by Congress and only carried out against legitimate, defined military targets.
Notifying the Russians hours ahead of time about a token, symbolic strike against an airfield that is conveniently evacuated and subsequently repaired in a day doesn't accomplish anything, except to waste $100 million worth of Tomahawks (and to distract the public's attention away from the complete and utter
show that is the US Presidency.)
olroadbeech
Happy Verified UPSer
I didn't laugh at this because what George says is the truth. The last time to be patriotic about this country was in the 40's. we are way over due for a revolution and starting from scratch.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Professional courtesy?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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He's been around the longest.
