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rickyb

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It's ongoing in that Greece is having to pay back at least a percentage of their loans. Greece isn't bankrupt because they were given loans. They're bankrupt because they took out large loans to pay for their entitlements and couldn't service the debt. They should've lived within their means.
they still cant service the debt!
 

rickyb

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They'll have to pay what they can and not get anymore loans until they've paid enough of it down. No more generous pensions at 50, etc, etc.
youre talking about restructuring the debt which they werent allowed to do lol

the euro leads to debt and banking crises and it happened!
 

vantexan

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no it is not restructured. they keep lending it money and are pretending greece is not bankrupt.

the euro by design leads to those things.
The debt was officially restructured in 2012 with goals set for Greece to meet. You want to blame everyone but the ones who are mostly at fault. It's not up to banks to fund your liberal paradise. If the Greeks could service the debt there wouldn't have been a problem. They couldn't, and they knew it but did it anyways. That's on them.
 

rickyb

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The debt was officially restructured in 2012 with goals set for Greece to meet. You want to blame everyone but the ones who are mostly at fault. It's not up to banks to fund your liberal paradise. If the Greeks could service the debt there wouldn't have been a problem. They couldn't, and they knew it but did it anyways. That's on them.
it was not restructured in 2012 because yanis varoufakis was trying to get it restructured in 2014

they are lent money and lent more money. the french and german banks needed a second round of bailouts. it was unfeasable to do this in germany or france. so they shuffled the money around and did it in greece while blaming the greeks
 

TheDudeAbides92

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There wasn’t it was all the CIA all the time that’s the terror threat right there
 

vantexan

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it was not restructured in 2012 because yanis varoufakis was trying to get it restructured in 2014

they are lent money and lent more money. the french and german banks needed a second round of bailouts. it was unfeasable to do this in germany or france. so they shuffled the money around and did it in greece while blaming the greeks
This is easily found with Google. 2012. Your buddy was just trying to get a better deal in 2014. And literally everyone says the Greeks overspent.
 

rickyb

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This is easily found with Google. 2012. Your buddy was just trying to get a better deal in 2014. And literally everyone says the Greeks overspent.
all of the western banks were :censored2:ed. the EU can not use a central bank to bail out the banks. america did the same thing, you bailed out hte banks, and hten you did austerity but you had a different word...it was some kind economic gibberish

you know what is easily found? this book:

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vantexan

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all of the western banks were :censored2:ed. the EU can not use a central bank to bail out the banks. america did the same thing, you bailed out hte banks, and hten you did austerity but you had a different word...it was some kind economic gibberish

you know what is easily found? this book:

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The EU can't use a central bank? You've never heard of the European Central Bank? ECB for short?

Were all the Western banks :censored2:ed? They aren't in business anymore? Do you know anything about anything?
 

rickyb

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The EU can't use a central bank? You've never heard of the European Central Bank? ECB for short?

Were all the Western banks :censored2:ed? They aren't in business anymore? Do you know anything about anything?
Its against the ecbs constitution

Western banks were bailed out trillions of dollars
 

vantexan

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Its against the ecbs constitution

Western banks were bailed out trillions of dollars
Goodness you're mixed up. The U.S. bailing out its banks isn't the same as European banks refusing to write off debt a member nation of the EU incurred. One is a government dealing with banks. The other is just the opposite, banks dealing with a government. The first has both taxes it takes in and money it can receive through the sale of government instruments. The other is about banks having a fiduciary responsibility to protect its depositors. They can't just write off debt. Greece was irresponsible. You want banks to keep feeding them money when they had demonstrated they couldn't service the debt they had already incurred. Forgive them and start over giving them more money. Doesn't work that way. The reason Germany is able to bail out its banks if needed is because Germany is an economic powerhouse that is responsible. Greece tried to give its citizens perks that were incredibly generous. But Greece isn't an economic powerhouse. Nor were they responsible giving those perks when they knew they couldn't pay for it. Did it anyways. You just told us the EU's central bank isn't allowed to bail out banks. Then why should private banks bail out countries they lend to if they themselves can't be bailed out? You're telling us if countries aren't responsible then the banks who lent to them should be irresponsible too. Give until they collapse. Doesn't work that way and never has.
 

rickyb

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Goodness you're mixed up. The U.S. bailing out its banks isn't the same as European banks refusing to write off debt a member nation of the EU incurred. One is a government dealing with banks. The other is just the opposite, banks dealing with a government. The first has both taxes it takes in and money it can receive through the sale of government instruments. The other is about banks having a fiduciary responsibility to protect its depositors. They can't just write off debt. Greece was irresponsible. You want banks to keep feeding them money when they had demonstrated they couldn't service the debt they had already incurred. Forgive them and start over giving them more money. Doesn't work that way. The reason Germany is able to bail out its banks if needed is because Germany is an economic powerhouse that is responsible. Greece tried to give its citizens perks that were incredibly generous. But Greece isn't an economic powerhouse. Nor were they responsible giving those perks when they knew they couldn't pay for it. Did it anyways. You just told us the EU's central bank isn't allowed to bail out banks. Then why should private banks bail out countries they lend to if they themselves can't be bailed out? You're telling us if countries aren't responsible then the banks who lent to them should be irresponsible too. Give until they collapse. Doesn't work that way and never has.
no european banks were :censored2:ed too because they engaged in USA derivatives.

go read "adults in the room" by yanis varoufakis
 

vantexan

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no european banks were :censored2:ed too because they engaged in USA derivatives.

go read "adults in the room" by yanis varoufakis
Whether they engaged in U.S. derivatives or not they aren't required to bail out an irresponsible country. If anything if they got themselves in trouble that's all the more reason they would demand the money they lent to Greece and others be repaid.
 

rickyb

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Whether they engaged in U.S. derivatives or not they aren't required to bail out an irresponsible country. If anything if they got themselves in trouble that's all the more reason they would demand the money they lent to Greece and others be repaid.
the banks were already bankrupt theyre not open for business lol
 
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