Texas Pays A Visit To SCOTUS.

[Re-Raise]

Best States in the country!

For cousin marryin!

 

[newfie]

None of which is true, but don't let that stop you.

Along with hunter politico is reporting that Joe's brother is also under investigation. Just as thier former business partners reported before the election. the media cover-up of this crime spree will be part of the story. The cover up is unravelling.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Both things can be true at the same time.

Yes they can!
1) Hunter is forced to admit he is under investigation by the DOJ for his part in the great Biden family crime spree.

2) You libs really are this oblivious!

 

[Old Man Jingles]

For cousin marryin!

Let me see ... yep! Alabama is in there!

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Along with hunter politico is reporting that Joe's brother is also under investigation. Just as thier former business partners reported before the election. the media cover-up of this crime spree will be part of the story. The cover up is unravelling.

And don't forget, Big Joe was involved as well!

Kamela!
Kamela!
You better get ready Gurl!

 

[trickpony1]

Tell that to the 17 other states who signed amicus briefs as well as 6 of them joining the suit with Texas.

The SCOTUS is gonna have a tough time sloughing this one off.

 

[vantexan]

For cousin marryin!

Surprised you haven't moved to one already!

 

[newfie]

And don't forget, Big Joe was involved as well!

Kamela!
Kamela!
You better get ready Gurl!

figured the investigation would get serious once they dragged Joe's lifeless body across the finish line.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

figured the investigation would get serious once they dragged Joe's lifeless body across the finish line.

clueless body

 

[refineryworker05]

This morning the attorney general of that champion of states rights Texas, filed suit to overturn the election results not in it's own state but the states of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

The gop objectively is a radical anti democracy party. most/many gop voters are objectively very radical and anti democratic. All one has to do is imagine people in what are frequently called "third world countries" behaving like republicans in America are behaving to understand how radical, corrupt, authoritarian, and anti-democratic these actions would be presented and thought to be.
In fact this reality explains why for many or maybe even most Americans, black activists merely saying the words defund the police causes more fear within some voters than actual gop officials taking numerous actions to over turn an election based on nothing.
American politics are very strange. The gop is objectively very very radical in its policy preferences( against the minimum wage, against pre existing protections in health insurance, against fair elections they lose, want tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans above any other policy goal, etc) and many voters don't seem to know this or care, and the dems are filled with mostly moderates or slightly left politicians like Obama and Biden and yet many voters believe the dems are very radical based on what they say are the green new deal and wanting to pay everyone's college debt. Like I said American politics are very strange.

 

[bacha29]

The gop objectively is a radical anti democracy party. most/many gop voters are objectively very radical and anti democratic. All one has to do is imagine people in what are frequently called "third world countries" behaving like republicans in America are behaving to understand how radical, corrupt, authoritarian, and anti-democratic these actions would be presented and thought to be.
In fact this reality explains why for many or maybe even most Americans, black activists merely saying the words defund the police causes more fear within some voters than actual gop officials taking numerous actions to over turn an election based on nothing.
American politics are very strange. The gop is objectively very very radical in its policy preferences( against the minimum wage, against pre existing protections in health insurance, against fair elections they lose, want tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans above any other policy goal, etc) and many voters don't seem to know this or care, and the dems are filled with mostly moderates or slightly left politicians like Obama and Biden and yet many voters believe the dems are very radical based on what they say are the green new deal and wanting to pay everyone's college debt. Like I said American politics are very strange.

Well spoken. The one political tool the GOP has used quite well is it's ability to instill fear in the hearts of impressionable people who do not have a great deal in the way of formal education . It is a fear that is becoming elevated due to a changing economy whereby if you don't have the education or the highly specialized job skills needed to be part of the new economy life isn't going to be very sweet. Clinton was ridiculed when during his state of the union address he mention the "new" economy. Well, here it is 20 years later and the fast moving new economy is well underway which has the potential to knock a lot of people out of the middle class.

 

[Wally]

Waaaaahh!
Why won't he concede?
Waaaaahh!

Best to flush cheating out. Real reform is needed starting with voter ID.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

The one political tool the Democrap party has used quite well is it's ability to instill fear in the hearts of impressionable people who do not have a great deal in the way of formal education .

fixed it for you

 

[refineryworker05]

Well spoken. The one political tool the GOP has used quite well is it's ability to instill fear in the hearts of impressionable people who do not have a great deal in the way of formal education . It is a fear that is becoming elevated due to a changing economy whereby if you don't have the education or the highly specialized job skills needed to be part of the new economy life isn't going to be very sweet. Clinton was ridiculed when during his state of the union address he mention the "new" economy. Well, here it is 20 years later and the fast moving new economy is well underway which has the potential to knock a lot of people out of the middle class.

I don't know if the instill fear thing is true. I think gop voters do see millions of other Americans as a huge threat. But I am telling you this fear thing and seeing other Americans as a threat is a thing that goes beyond the gop. So, I don't know if that fear comes from gop political messaging. I mean the gop is taping into a preexisting belief system within the American body politic.

For an example, I remember when Obama was president and they were phasing out certain types of light bulbs because they were crap basically. I remember the anger and outrage from coworkers who were conservative in their outlook but not all were republicans at how light bulbs were changing, and now in part due to government regulations light bulbs last much longer and are better and no one says anything about how radical it was Obama wanted to change light bulbs. Yet at the time it was a real outrage amongst Americans mainly the gop. this is that fear mindset where many Americans go from outrage after outrage to minor changes and I think this outrage is evidence of this deeper preexisting fear in America.

 

[bacha29]

Best to flush cheating out. Real reform is needed starting with voter ID.

If the state legislatures controlled by your party believed that it was necessary to do so they would have done so. Problem was, they were dead certain that they had the election already won. Here's the problem with voter photo ID which is the most accepted form of ID. What if a person doesn't drive? What are you going to do about the Amish, Old Order Mennonites and others who for religious and other legitimate reasons refuse to allow themselves to be photographed? Religious and other civil rights issues make your simplistic solutions completely unusable .

 

[refineryworker05]

If the state legislatures controlled by your party believed that it was necessary to do so they would have done so. Problem was, they were dead certain that they had the election already won. Here's the problem with voter photo ID which is the most accepted form of ID. What if a person doesn't drive? What are you going to do about the Amish, Old Order Mennonites and others who for religious and other legitimate reasons refuse to allow themselves to be photographed? Religious and other civil rights issues make your simplistic solutions completely unusable .

None of their arguments even matter though because there is no allegations of voter fraud. There are no allegations that the will of the voters was altered by these changes. trump got fewer votes, that fact is not being challenged in court.
They are making a legal argument over process of how election rules were changed via the state constitution
That argument doesn't invalidate that trump got fewer votes, that Biden got more votes. Voters voted, they voted legally within their state's election rules and trump got fewer votes. Unless there is an allegation that there was actual voter fraud, this lawsuit doesn't change anything.
The one republican super power is how they all pretend to believe the same bs no matter how illogical.

 

[bacha29]

I don't know if the instill fear thing is true. I think gop voters do see millions of other Americans as a huge threat. But I am telling you this fear thing and seeing other Americans as a threat is a thing that goes beyond the gop. So, I don't know if that fear comes from gop political messaging. I mean the gop is taping into a preexisting belief system within the American body politic.

For an example, I remember when Obama was president and they were phasing out certain types of light bulbs because they were crap basically. I remember the anger and outrage from coworkers who were conservative in their outlook but not all were republicans at how light bulbs were changing, and now in part due to government regulations light bulbs last much longer and are better and no one says anything about how radical it was Obama wanted to change light bulbs. Yet at the time it was a real outrage amongst Americans mainly the gop. this is that fear mindset where many Americans go from outrage after outrage to minor changes and I think this outrage is evidence of this deeper preexisting fear in America.

Again well spoken. There are people who hate change simply because the comfort zone they are in is simple enough in terms of surroundings and daily tasks that they don't want anything else. If they want to live back in the 1950's fine but what can be expected of others in the effort to keep them in those surrounding is very limited. The line connecting the bygone era they want to live in to the lightning fast world of today eventually becomes so stretched that it simply snaps.

An aggressive new commitment to basic public education and extensive job training is about the only thing that can be done for them . While no one can guarantee them a job when they come out if they reject the opportunity simply because they simply hate change or take that "you're not telling me" attitude then you simply have no choice but to cut them loose.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

For an example, I remember when Obama was president and they were phasing out certain types of light bulbs because they were crap basically. I remember the anger and outrage from coworkers who were conservative in their outlook but not all were republicans at how light bulbs were changing, and now in part due to government regulations light bulbs last much longer and are better and no one says anything about how radical it was Obama wanted to change light bulbs.

BS
They forced people into using CFL which is a garbage technology that no one uses anymore. It was one of the many stupid big government mandates that Obama pushed.

 

[refineryworker05]

Again well spoken. There are people who hate change simply because the comfort zone they are in is simple enough in terms of surroundings and daily tasks that they don't want anything else. If they want to live back in the 1950's fine but what can be expected of others in the effort to keep them in those surrounding is very limited. The line connecting the bygone era they want to live in to the lightning fast world of today eventually becomes so stretched that it simply snaps.

An aggressive new commitment to basic public education and extensive job training is about the only thing that can be done for them . While no one can guarantee them a job when they come out if they reject the opportunity simply because they simply hate change or take that "you're not telling me" attitude then you simply have no choice but to cut them loose.

Yeah people hate change even if they don't like what they currently have. I remember we had this terrible 8hr shift at the refinery where I work. It was terrible. you got one weekend off a month, you worked 6 days in a row with no overtime pay. There was a lot of hatred of that schedule, and yet going to a different schedule was incredibly difficult for our union because of that fear that well this new schedule could be worse, and I have to admit I was worried about the new schedule being worse as well. I worked there 11 years before the company forced the union to change it by implementing an even worse 8hr plus 4hr schedule update, that terrible schedule was enough to finally get movement to change.

In terms of public education and job training I agree, but looking at the numbers the US governments(federal, state, local, city) already employs 10's of millions of people, various government activities probably contribute to the employment of 10's of millions of other Americans working for "private companies", I don't see why the government couldn't just give a job to anyone that wanted to work. It would be a few million more workers but not some huge change to what already exists. Then no one would get left behind.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

I remember we had this terrible 8hr shift at the refinery where I work.....

No one believes these little stories you make up.