Wally
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Did your supplement ban 22.4?Impossible. Some of the 22.3 jobs at least in the 177 are highly coveted FT positions. Rewrap, clerk, porter. Lots of 25-30 year drivers move into those positions.
Did your supplement ban 22.4?Impossible. Some of the 22.3 jobs at least in the 177 are highly coveted FT positions. Rewrap, clerk, porter. Lots of 25-30 year drivers move into those positions.
What if the company has to downsize?The existing 22.3 jobs cannot be eliminated.
Absolutely.
The 5000 new full-time jobs to be created, is the minimum.
I have to respectfully disagree at my hub the company and union has to be diligently constantly reminded to put up to bid 22.3 after there left vacant.The existing 22.3 jobs cannot be eliminated.
Absolutely.
The 5000 new full-time jobs to be created, is the minimum.
I have 12 and half years I need another 2 before I have a chance. No joke.Get some seniority and win a 22.3 bid.. that’s how this game works
What if the company has to downsize?
I didn't see anything in the contract protecting the number of 22.3 jobs we have.
manipulated not eliminated is more the concept with ups and if i understand the concerns in our center thats more the pointThe existing 22.3 jobs cannot be eliminated.
I agree they cant be
Absolutely.
The 5000 new full-time jobs to be created, is the minimum.
The problem is, it wasn't honored in the past in many locals. my center has had three 22.3 retired and not replaced in the last 6 years. It's been grieved, fought and lost.
The 22.3 screwed us by not demanding their 8 hour and would cut and run the moment a part time air driver was there to take the work. So we couldn't justify the full time position because those 22.3 idiots rarely worked full time. UPS finds ways to not justify keeping s 22.3 simply by tempting them with hours off.
So there really isn't job creation. They could automate and wipe out jobs overnight.Then the supplemental layoff language applies.
New England?I keep breaking my promise to not post here anymore.
This doesnt "say" that there wont be any more new 22.3 opportunities but the mass push to create cheap driving positions will probably be a tsunami, brushing 22.3 jobs to the rear of the line as far as possible.
It quacks like a duck.
At least your local was honest with you. Our ba said the 22.4s will absolutely not take the place of 22.3 opportunities. I can only go by the language written. I presume the proposed language is the same as the final version? I'll default to that.
Central RegionNew England?
From the Sep 6, 2018 Q & As thru UPSrising...
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It's been a while but the last time I saw the national grievance docket the game of hide the peanut (22.3 jobs being "moved" to another location) was prevalent. Has this been fixed or still ongoing?The existing 22.3 jobs cannot be eliminated.
Absolutely.
The 5000 new full-time jobs to be created, is the minimum.