The partners have left the room

[RangerMan06]

I guess it is cheaper then paying a competitive PT wage.

I'm sure IE will twist numbers to make it appear that we're saving money. Kinda like the millions we've spent on drones

 

[catstalking]

Boy you are lame and have no reading comprehension. Stick to your wrong numbers I guess.

Are you that literal? Of course they didn’t completely ax IE. The head count is a shell of itself. No more 4 IE partners with clipboards in the managers office because they are too scared to articulate an inaccurate process alone. I know this as a manager and have had to live with someone’s else’s plans and numbers for years.

Go to lunch. That’s what those folks are good for.

you have literally no interaction with IE outside of plan day and maybe staffing (tied to plan day); these things are decided at the Executive level and just calculated/rolled down for everyone to enact

95% of what IE does is completely hidden from you

 

[oldngray]

 

[DRAGON II]

you have literally no interaction with IE outside of plan day and maybe staffing (tied to plan day); these things are decided at the Executive level and just calculated/rolled down for everyone to enact

95% of what IE does is completely hidden from you

Brutal thread...both sides with great arguments on things that happen everyday at our level.

 

[RangerMan06]

Brutal thread...both sides with great arguments on things that happen everyday at our level.

One side makes this company money and the other wastes it

 

[catstalking]

One side makes this company money

air drivers and feeders

and the other wastes it

literally the rest of us

 

[RangerMan06]

air drivers and feeders


literally the rest of us

Quit wasting our money

 

[burrheadd]

you have literally no interaction with IE outside of plan day and maybe staffing (tied to plan day); these things are decided at the Executive level and just calculated/rolled down for everyone to enact

95% of what IE does is completely hidden from you

And everybody else

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Brutal thread...both sides with great arguments on things that happen everyday at our level.

"Our level"... lol

 

[728ups]

Unfortunately, you could see this model coming a very long time ago. Center managers actually ran their Center. Their decisions reflected in their pay. a Center Manager is no longer able to make any decisions unless they’re told to. They are no longer necessary except for those above him to beat him up when something doesn’t go right. Extended areas you often have one center manager for numerous centers, that will be standard moving forward shortly I believe..

They did that on my building about 13 years ago. One center manager for two buildings.
I don’t keep up too much with day to day going one now, but my steward told me they have done away with the center manager title and replaced it with Business Manager. It’s pretty much the same job as the center manager only without as many perks and a lower base pay

 

[oldngray]

They did that on my building about 13 years ago. One center manager for two buildings.
I don’t keep up too much with day to day going one now, but my steward told me they have done away with the center manager title and replaced it with Business Manager. It’s pretty much the same job as the center manager only without as many perks and a lower base pay

I thought a business manager was more sales than operations

 

[UnionStrong]

"Our level"... lol

Of incompetence

 

[728ups]

I thought a business manager was more sales than operations

Same here. The current Business Manager in my building was a seasonal driver who was asked to go into management about 5 years ago. He was my Onroad and after about 3 months we had slapped him around so badly and buried him in grievances that he went into dispatch in another building.
They brought him back and “ Promoted” him late last year. They just recycle people as no one wants Management now

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Center manager, business manager, call it what you want.

They are all going to be replaced.


The first to go.... are dispatch people.

AI is taking over.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Brutal thread...both sides with great arguments on things that happen everyday at our level.

How many nuts were Dragon on you before you ascended?

 

[dudebro]

It’s pretty much the same job as the center manager only without as many perks and a lower base pay

It's exactly the same job with exactly the same base pay.

 

[Brownisbrown]

I was told my salad tossing skills are too valuable so I wont be impacted

 

[catstalking]

Same here. The current Business Manager in my building was a seasonal driver who was asked to go into management about 5 years ago. He was my Onroad and after about 3 months we had slapped him around so badly and buried him in grievances that he went into dispatch in another building.
They brought him back and “ Promoted” him late last year. They just recycle people as no one wants Management now

so you "slapped him around and buried him in grievances" so hard he makes 50k more than you now?

uh good work? can you come slap me around maybe sounds like a path to success

 

[728ups]

so you "slapped him around and buried him in grievances" so hard he makes 50k more than you now?

uh good work? can you come slap me around maybe sounds like a path to success

Im retired, I don’t care what he makes.
He was an arrogant little
that got put in his place. He couldn’t handle being an Onroad and leapt at the chance to go to dispatch

Oh, and he’s divorced with small childrennow, so whatever more he makes he aint seeing it

 

[728ups]

so you "slapped him around and buried him in grievances" so hard he makes 50k more than you now?

uh good work? can you come slap me around maybe sounds like a path to success

Oh and UPS is certainly a company where it’s possible to fail upwards. Saw it many times