You seem enamored with his products. Weren't for him there wouldn't be a Tesla.
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Companies go private all the time. Big difference between that and letting the inmates run the asylum.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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No I just find it hilarious when people fall for the silly mondragon left wing narrative. It's such a tired old pathetic schizophrenic uninformed position to start your argument from.... It's really not even worth discussing.
Carry on.
big difference between having a say at your job and just taking orders
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wilberforce15
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He's a once-in-a-generation, probably more like once-in-a-century, type of intellect and manager.
He is better than Gates and Jobs put together.
That doesn't say anything about whether he's more of a good guy than a bad guy.
wilberforce15
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That's cool.
Private property ownership is left-wing?
I oppose centralized power, and I don't care if it's private or public. Power needs to be decentralized.
Righties love centralizing private power. Lefties love centralizing public power.
Worker-owned corporations are the only meaningful alternative, whereby you can have dispersed, private ownership of the means of production as a norm.
Then by all means start your co-op.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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You're uniformed about the realities of mondragon. You've fallen for a left wing trap.
wilberforce15
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That's cool. Throw Mondragon in the ocean. I don't care.
The worker-owner model is superior.
even if u were informed, you'd find a way to lie to yourself so you'd be uninformed again
think about how much better the delivery truck could be if workers voted on what they wanted in it.
It all costs. Good luck.
now think about the detrimental affects not voting at work has on our democracy
DriveInDriѵeOut
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What about silly mondragon right wing narrative? A lot of that too.
wilberforce15
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Centralization of economic power and centralization of political power are the exact same thing.
As soon as political power is centralized, that's where all money will flow. And as soon as economic power is centralized, political power will be easily bought.
The only solution is widely distributed private ownership of the means of production and political federalism. It's amazing that's exactly what the Founders told us to do.
BigGuy2732
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Centralization is a good thing. You should read Moldbug. God is a monarchist. So is His Church. So should be his government. But yes, agreed that not necessarily worker owned, but very very worker oriented work places is a good thing and helps working men and women the best. This is what made america great, all of that protectionism with our capitalism in the 50s and 60s. Then we got decadent cause Joe Boomer decided to only have 1 or 2 kids.
wilberforce15
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A king was a curse on his people, given to them as punishment for being unsatisfied with the government He gave.
Protectionism is awesome. But it doesn't take centralization to have that.
TearsInRain
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yah i bet that's what they told the kulaks too when they shot them in the back of their heads in some ditch
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