The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

vantexan

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So not only is the average not a million, now the standard is whatever you determine to be a "safe neighborhood". GMAFB.

You're proving my point that they're being drama queens.
It was announced a couple of weeks ago that the average cost of a home in California is now a million. Whether that's the average or the median I don't know. But it illustrates how expensive California is. Real estate prices in the last 6 or so months have really surged.
 

rickyb

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People are just different. We are still loved by God equally, but it’s okay to admit people have different talents and abilities.
i dont believe in racial crap other than racism makes certain races more likely to do 1 thing over another. could be cultural too.
 

vantexan

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they probably have high support considering their standards of living are rising so fast
Hundreds of millions of Chinese are still in poverty. And millions have invested in homes that have yet to be built and probably won't be due to developer ponzi schemes.
 

vantexan

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What slave labor? And the U.S. has enemy combatants to deal with a sites to deal with them. And its been proven repeatedly that not all covid deaths were due to covid. And our financial system works just fine if you keep politicians out of it. And if there are excesses it works itself out. China's is collapsing because of a lack of understanding of economics.
your financial system collapsed bc u deregulated it

america financialized, china industrialized which is what america used to do. guess which is better
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You mean dirty air so thick it looks like fog over in China is better? You do know most of the 50 most polluted cities in the world are in China, right? Followed by India.
 

rickyb

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your financial system collapsed bc u deregulated it

america financialized, china industrialized which is what america used to do. guess which is better
You mean dirty air so thick it looks like fog over in China is better? You do know most of the 50 most polluted cities in the world are in China, right? Followed by India.
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so youre saying this system doesnt work?

or we should financialize like america and thats the way to go? and that financialization and deindustrialization had nothing to do with election of trump?
 

vantexan

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United States is wealthy because we are Europeans of western descent. The Swedes do well with their socialist utopia (before they invite the third world in). White people, no matter what the monetary system, usually maintain some sort of prosperous civilization because it’s just in our blood. It has less to do with a monetary system and more to do with the genetics of our people. We maintain civilization while others live in squalor, because they simply cannot maintain it. Genetics, environmental factors, whatever it may be. Sun Saharan Africans didn’t even have a single written language when we arrived to colonize it in the 1800s. It is what it is.
And yet a number of racial groups in the U.S. have a higher standard of living in the U.S. than whites do. And Singapore, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan all have high standards of living. You're trying to say whites are genetically superior but it's really more about culture. Even within countries there's a diversity of outcomes. I'd put the city of Queretaro, Mexico up against most cities in Mexico and most American cities for quality of life. The Silicon Valley of Mexico.
 

vantexan

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well for one he preached markets ie bankruptcy for average joes, and maintained welfare and bailouts ie govt for the rich
His policies got us out of the mess created by Carter. Created millions of jobs. Ended the Cold War. But oh no! Someone got rich and you didn't! Unfair!
 

rickyb

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Ralph Nader: We had an interview with Ted Postol, the expert on nuclear warfare, professor of
engineering at MIT, emeritus, and he said that this could rapidly spin out of control. That if you
put the nuclear weaponry on alert the way Putin did, and they only have radar ground technology
that can see that can see supposedly what's coming at them, they can make a mistake, as they did
a couple times. Luckily, the ground person decided not to give the retaliation signal. And the US
can determine any firing from any international ballistic missile anywhere in the world; it's more
advanced. And he says that this could lead to an accidental launch or the Russians seeing
something that isn't coming at them because of deficiency of their detection system. So this
could be a modern version World War I, the assassination of the grand duke in Sarajevo, leading
to a clash of egos of the monarchs of Russia, Germany, France, England, Austro-Hungarian
Empire. And you know how that turned out. So what do you think people in this country should
be doing?

Chris Hedges: Well, I've covered war, of course, and any time you open that Pandora's box of
war, you don't control it; it controls you. So you just look at the way the kind of bizarre situations
that we've maneuvered ourselves into in the Middle East. So there is this insane idea of arming
moderate rebels. Again, this comes from the neocons who, by the way, work in either
administration. Victoria Nuland was Cheney's chief foreign policy advisor, worked for Obama,
and now works for Biden. And her husband is Robert Kagan. It's kind of a family business. Fred
Kagan, is the one told us we better build up our military so we can fight both Russia and China.
These guys are just nuts. So you saw in Syria where we spent $500 million arming, quote-
unquote, "moderate" rebels, whatever they are. That creates the Caliphate; they decide to destroy
it, so they're bombing the forces Assad is attacking. They end up acting as Assad's de facto air
force. This is what happens in war. You just don't want to go there. And World War I is a good
analogy. Europe stumbled blindly into this suicidal slaughter. Nobody expected it; nobody
understood it. They were still kind of mentally locked in the 19th Century Haig. The field
marshal who led the British forces was convinced that his cavalry forces would deliver the
crowning defeat to the Germans in the age of machine guns and heavy artillery etc. So yeah, it's
very, very, very dangerous. You don't want to do this. The whole idea that they have dismissed
diplomacy and imposed draconian sanctions that are clearly designed to bring Putin down means
Putin is cornered. And you don't want to corner a nuclear superpower

 

rickyb

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His policies got us out of the mess created by Carter. Created millions of jobs. Ended the Cold War. But oh no! Someone got rich and you didn't! Unfair!
actually another thing reagan did was he signalled to private sector they werent going to enforce labor laws anymore. think this started by firing ATCs

it was just a huge matrix
 

vantexan

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actually another thing reagan did was he signalled to private sector they werent going to enforce labor laws anymore. think this started by firing ATCs

it was just a huge matrix
Reagan didn't ignore law. And he was in his rights as president to fire the air traffic controllers.
 

vantexan

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You mean dirty air so thick it looks like fog over in China is better? You do know most of the 50 most polluted cities in the world are in China, right? Followed by India.
so youre saying this system doesnt work?

or we should financialize like america and thats the way to go? and that financialization and deindustrialization had nothing to do with election of trump?
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Nowhere did I say our system is perfect. Just works better than any other system. Billions of people have been lifted out of poverty through capitalism. You say if they don't all have the same as the wealthy guy they're being cheated. At the same time you bemoan the industrialization, the 99% of the time things aren't used, etc. Do you not realize the sheer amount of industrialization needed to give everyone a 5000 sq ft house, two nice cars, nice clothes, furniture, electronics, etc? So what is it Ricky? Do you want everyone to have wealth, to be equal? Or do you want the vast majority to have very little except for the elites who are more important and thus deserve more? I suspect you want everyone to have very little, and like it. And if they don't they'll be marched off to a camp to be reeducated.
 
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