The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

rickyb

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when considering to send weapons to a nation defending itself, you do not do this if it will increase the attack on them

so we should not send weapons to ukraine
 

rickyb

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rickyb

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So just let the nation with weapons run over and dominate its neighbors. Got it.
yea you dont sell weapons to a country if its going to make it worse, which is also what NATO was about

the solution is diplomacy. but FOX news doesnt cover this. theres probably close to 100% support by MSM for more weapons
 

vantexan

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yea you dont sell weapons to a country if its going to make it worse, which is also what NATO was about

the solution is diplomacy. but FOX news doesnt cover this. theres probably close to 100% support by MSM for more weapons
So in your estimation Ukraine shouldn't have defended itself at all. If Russia wants it then Russia gets it. The Ukrainians don't have a right to govern themselves. Only the biggest, most powerful countries get to have their way.
 

rickyb

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So in your estimation Ukraine shouldn't have defended itself at all. If Russia wants it then Russia gets it. The Ukrainians don't have a right to govern themselves. Only the biggest, most powerful countries get to have their way.
i said we should not send weapons to ukraine as it is increasing the likelihood of escalation in ukraine
 

vantexan

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i said we should not send weapons to ukraine as it is increasing the likelihood of escalation in ukraine
How much more escalated can it be than a full blown invasion and civilians targeted? Yet you say don't send the Ukrainians weapons because it'll only make it worse. So really without those weapons the Ukrainians should just surrender and give up their country?
 

Box Ox

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I can see why you're into this guy.


"Baraka expressed his suspicions that the shootdown of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine was a "false flag" operation, saying: "Someone wrote about three weeks ago that we should expect a major false flag operation in eastern Ukraine that's going to be then blamed on the Russians. And that's exactly what has happened. They're trying to say in the Western press that the Ukrainian government does not have access to that kind of weaponry, when it's clear that they do."[28][29] He criticized Western media coverage of the event for "undermining anything coming from Russia Today. That's where you see the story being advanced that there is a possibility that this story is a little more complicated than people realize."[30] Baraka also claimed that observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe were "sent in basically as spies who showed up on the scene to quote-unquote 'monitor'."[31]"
 

rickyb

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How much more escalated can it be than a full blown invasion and civilians targeted? Yet you say don't send the Ukrainians weapons because it'll only make it worse. So really without those weapons the Ukrainians should just surrender and give up their country?
diplomacy

not more weapons which will likely increase the severity of attack also leading to nuclear war
 

rickyb

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I can see why you're into this guy.


"Baraka expressed his suspicions that the shootdown of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine was a "false flag" operation, saying: "Someone wrote about three weeks ago that we should expect a major false flag operation in eastern Ukraine that's going to be then blamed on the Russians. And that's exactly what has happened. They're trying to say in the Western press that the Ukrainian government does not have access to that kind of weaponry, when it's clear that they do."[28][29] He criticized Western media coverage of the event for "undermining anything coming from Russia Today. That's where you see the story being advanced that there is a possibility that this story is a little more complicated than people realize."[30] Baraka also claimed that observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe were "sent in basically as spies who showed up on the scene to quote-unquote 'monitor'."[31]"
green party vice prez too!
 

vantexan

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diplomacy

not more weapons which will likely increase the severity of attack also leading to nuclear war
But diplomacy only works if both sides are agreeable to a peaceful settlement. Russia wants Ukraine. By your estimation Ukraine ought to just give in rather than fight.
 

Box Ox

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diplomacy

not more weapons which will likely increase the severity of attack also leading to nuclear war

"Diplomacy" for Putin = the surrender of eastern and southern Ukraine to Russia. Nothing less. Which is understandably not acceptable to Ukraine.

not more weapons which will likely increase the severity of attack also leading to nuclear war

Don't worry, Comrade Soy Boy. You can cower from the nuclear weapons you use as an excuse to not stop Putin and the rest of the world will do what needs to be done to stop Putin.
 
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