wilberforce15
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Yes, we did and have done that. And yes, we are the most benevolent empire ever.
There you go again, asserting things I agree with as if I didn't.
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There you go again, asserting things I agree with as if I didn't.
So? That in no way meant we controlled those countries. 16 ships? So what?
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We assembled a world tour of firepower for the express purpose of threatening anyone who would question our will in SE Asia. Lol.
Of course we are more benevolent imperialists than Japs or Chinks.
But the aggression and imperialism is there nonetheless, and all the predictable consequences of it.
wilberforce15
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The world got the point. It's predictable that you don't.
wilberforce15
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I have this nasty habit of supporting self-government for everyone.
Name the countries we have sent troops into and controlled and have been controlling for decades and hundreds of years? I mean real countries like India, South Africa, Vietnam? Come on, show us the white administrations and court systems like the British set up. You made the assertion, show where we muscled the French out of French Indochina and took over? Show a lot more than a naval tour of the world.
The British in the early 1900's were much more dominant than we were and controlled much, much more of the world. You have an ethnocentric view that believes the world revolves around us and has for a very long time. We've had our time and due to mismanagement are on the brink of losing a lot of influence in the world.
wilberforce15
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The whole world has an ethnocentric view, and the joke is on you for not following suit.
wilberforce15
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Just when I think a Boomer can't Boom any more, he Booms a new Booming record.
Tell me more how hegemony requires tophats on dudes physically present to be real domination.
The whole world doesn't assert that their country is dominating everyone else and in spite of other countries controlling given areas the citizens of various countries believe that those countries are just figureheads and that their particular country, race, ethnicity is the real power behind the throne. That's not just ethno centrism it's delusion on a grand scale. Next thing you'll be telling us is Ukraine brought the Russian invasion on themselves for being friendly with the West. Oh, wait....
It was British troops and navies subjugating other countries, not ours. You seem to believe other countries spent their blood and treasure conquering other lands then we just sauntered in and said we're taking over. Tell me again about these dozens of countries that were making deals with us at gunpoint when we never pointed guns at them? Maybe they were shaking in their boots at the sight of our white 16 ships?
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wilberforce15
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I've played with my food enough.
Rebellion against a domineering motherland isn't the same. If anything the British learned a lot from their mistakes in America and operated a good deal differently later.
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We wiped Native American cultures along with their religions and took the land by force. That sounds imperialistic to me.
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Sounds like the inevitable march of civilization and progress.
Much of that took place under the British. And we continued it. But tell me what economic deals did we strike at gunpoint with the Indians that had them working for us much like the British did in many countries? I understand your point but it wasn't the same as what happened with colonial powers dominating other countries.
wilberforce15
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Life is actually very easy if you just assume everyone from other places is stupid and evil.
UnionStrong
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You eat live insects?
Russian warship sinks; Ukraine says its missile is responsible
Russia said its lead warship in the Black Sea sank on Thursday after an explosion and fire that Ukraine claimed was caused by a missile strike, dealing a blow to Moscow as it readied for new attacks that were likely to determine the conflict's outcome.
"Russia said on Thursday the flagship of its Black Sea fleet was seriously damaged and its crew evacuated following an explosion that a Ukrainian official said was the result of a missile strike.
Russia's defence ministry said a fire on the Moskva missile cruiser caused ammunition to blow up, Interfax news agency reported.
It did not say what caused the fire but Maksym Marchenko, the Ukrainian governor of the region around the Black Sea port of Odesa, said the Moskva had been hit by two Ukrainian-made Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles.
"Neptune missiles guarding the Black Sea caused very serious damage," he said in an online post."
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