The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

Thebrownblob

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I agree with that but it's popular in certain groups to say the U.S. killed a million Iraqis or more when every study of what actually happened comes up dramatically short of that. Or to say that we purposely target civilians. I think we shouldn't have invaded Iraq but as I see it there were a couple of good things that did come out of it. The war drew in a lot of Muslim extremists from many countries which we eliminated. And local Iraqis changed over to our side when they saw the extremists were much worse than us. Of course leave it to a Democratic administration to come in and muck everything up giving rise to ISIS and Iraq coming under the influence of Iran.
Right and I don’t disagree that we probably don’t target civilians, but some of our actions make me question our reason for ever being in some of the conflicts we are in.
 

rickyb

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Are you saying if it's within their own borders it's ok?
no. but a persons influence is highest when criticizing their own govt. i think it takes extra nerve to slaughter ppl in another country when its going to be harder for them to protest you. see many americans are confused because their govt is slaughtering ppl abroad. if americans were slaughtered by their own govt, maybe theyd be able to see the matrix better
 

rickyb

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Right and I don’t disagree that we probably don’t target civilians, but some of our actions make me question our reason for ever being in some of the conflicts we are in.
domination and theft of resources?

appeasing military industrial complex (russia ukraine invasion prime example)
 

vantexan

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Right and I don’t disagree that we probably don’t target civilians, but some of our actions make me question our reason for ever being in some of the conflicts we are in.
True, Iraq certainly didn't seem about 9/11. And we stretched out Afghanistan way beyond how long we should've been there. That we left $85 billion in military equipment says it all to me. The government doesn't produce that equipment. We pay contractors, the military-industrial complex, to do that. $85 billion in equipment just sitting there. Afghanistan must have been a very profitable war for the contractors.
 

vantexan

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no. but a persons influence is highest when criticizing their own govt. i think it takes extra nerve to slaughter ppl in another country when its going to be harder for them to protest you. see many americans are confused because their govt is slaughtering ppl abroad. if americans were slaughtered by their own govt, maybe theyd be able to see the matrix better
Where are we currently slaughtering people abroad? And you said millions. Where have we slaughtered millions? Vietnam maybe.
 

Thebrownblob

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domination and theft of resources?

appeasing military industrial complex (russia ukraine invasion prime example)
Maybe, but some of the people involved could just be misguided. Life is not always just black-and-white. I would definitely say Putin is the black. But some of the things we’ve done in the name of both retribution and nation building have turned out disastrous for the citizens of those countries. Sometimes the road to hell is paved with good intentions but you still end up in hell. We should always question “are we the white hatWe should always question are we always the good guys” with our actions.
 
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rickyb

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Where are we currently slaughtering people abroad? And you said millions. Where have we slaughtered millions? Vietnam maybe.
i posted how many dead from kim dotcom before


"The extensive loss of life in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Libya is not included in this study."
 

rickyb

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Maybe, but some of the people involved could just be misguided. Life is not always just black-and-white. I would definitely say Putin is the black. But some of the things we’ve done in the name of both retribution and nation building have turned out disastrous for the citizens of those countries. Sometimes the road to hell is paved with good intentions but you still end up in hell.
cheney and bush were definitely black. obama was a wolf in sheeps clothing. pretty sure trump and biden were black. trump is a maroon and biden has mental problems. putin is black, his invasion of ukraine is preemptive war crime much like cheney and bush invasion of iraq, however we can understand why he did it which is nato expansion.
 

vantexan

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i posted how many dead from kim dotcom before


"The extensive loss of life in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Libya is not included in this study."
People dying in regional conflicts isn't the same as the U.S. attacking and killing them directly. Our country took sides. Primarily to stop communism.
 

vantexan

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cheney and bush were definitely black. obama was a wolf in sheeps clothing. pretty sure trump and biden were black. trump is a maroon and biden has mental problems. putin is black, his invasion of ukraine is preemptive war crime much like cheney and bush invasion of iraq, however we can understand why he did it which is nato expansion.
Name one time NATO has attacked Russia during its existence?
 

Thebrownblob

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cheney and bush were definitely black. obama was a wolf in sheeps clothing. pretty sure trump and biden were black. trump is a maroon and biden has mental problems. putin is black, his invasion of ukraine is preemptive war crime much like cheney and bush invasion of iraq, however we can understand why he did it which is nato expansion.
Like Trump or hate Trump, he did not start major conflicts while he was in office. Unless you consider mean tweets.
 

rickyb

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Name one time NATO has attacked Russia during its existence?
i dont know but its a hostile military alliance

name one time cuba attacked america during its existence?

if it was bad for them, then its bad for you. and if its not, then were being hypocrites
 

rickyb

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Like Trump or hate Trump, he did not start major conflicts while he was in office. Unless you consider mean tweets.
yea i forgot to mention that but he did maintain them which was like 5 or 7. obama brought us up to 5 or 7 wars. trump also sold weapons to ukraine i believe which increased tensions with russia, obama was smart enough not to do that. i think idiot liberals made trump more hostile to russia with all their red scare 2016 nonsense.
 

Thebrownblob

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vantexan

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i dont know but its a hostile military alliance

name one time cuba attacked america during its existence?

if it was bad for them, then its bad for you. and if its not, then were being hypocrites
The Castro's and company killed tens of thousands of Cubans, caused hundreds of thousands to flee. And attempted to put nuclear missiles in close proximity to us with Soviet help. NATO has been a defensive alliance to restrict Russian aggression. Two very different scenarios.
 

vantexan

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I would say Putin would tell you NATO did not hold up their end of the bargain in regards to NATO expansion. He’s probably right although I don’t think it gives him the right to do the things he’s doing.
One would have to wonder if he had conquered Ukraine how long would it be until he was in Eastern Europe if they weren't in NATO?
 

rickyb

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The Castro's and company killed tens of thousands of Cubans, caused hundreds of thousands to flee. And attempted to put nuclear missiles in close proximity to us with Soviet help. NATO has been a defensive alliance to restrict Russian aggression. Two very different scenarios.
no no you got missiles in poland as we speak.

and the americans have killed 20 million since ww2 which i just posted.

NATO supposedly exists to restrict warsaw, but when that collapsed, we got a new lie!
 
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