THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[DriveInDriveOut]

Also it’s funny the same report said what trump did was much different

Broken record.

Literally just explained to you how it's different. Biden stole documents from a SCIF. Of course that's different than the national archives shipping them to Trump.

You're just trolling.

 

[HarryWarden]

Why wouldn't he believe it? The prosecutor who interviewed Biden said that in his published report. Actually got Biden and his administration pissed because they didn't want anyone to think Biden had dementia going into the election. Where have you been?

The report did not say Biden was a senile old man with dementia, @DriveInDriveOut lies, and a lot. There’s a reason he never posts sources

The quote was

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” the report said

It also said

Hur concluded there is not enough evidence to convict Biden of “willfully” retaining the Afghanistan documents or the notebooks

But Hur said Biden could convince some jurors his actions weren’t willful by arguing, for example, that he forgot about the documents shortly after finding them in 2017. It’s also possible the Afghanistan documents were never in the Virginia home at all, but were accidently kept without Biden’s knowledge in Delaware since he was vice president, Hur concluded.

Regarding the notebooks containing classified information, Hur concluded that Biden could plausibly argue if there were a trial that he believed that the notebooks were his personal property and he was allowed to take them home.

“During our interview of him, Mr. Biden was emphatic, declaring that his notebooks are ‘my property’ and that ‘every president before me has done the exact same thing,’ that is, kept handwritten classified materials after leaving office,” the report said.

Other classified documents found at the Penn Biden Center, Biden’s Delaware home, and among Senate papers at the University of Delaware “could plausibly have been brought to these locations by mistake,” Hur concluded.

 

[HarryWarden]

More importantly, from the same report

And remember, this report was done by a trump appoint Republican special counsel:


Hur’s report says the differences between the two cases are “clear.” Unlike Biden — who cooperated with investigators, agreed to searches of his homes and sat for a voluntary interview — the allegations in Trump’s case present “serious aggravating facts,” Hur wrote.

“Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite,” the report said.

For instance, prosecutors say, after the Justice Department issued a subpoena for the records in May 2022, Trump asked his own lawyers if he could defy the request and said words to the effect of, “I don’t want anybody looking through my boxes.”

“Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?” one of his lawyers described him as saying, according to the indictment.

Prosecutors allege that during the July 2021 meeting at Bedminster, Trump also waved around the classified attack plan to his guests. “This is secret information,” he said, according to a recording prosecutors have cited, claiming that, “as president I could have declassified it” but hadn’t.

Prosecutors have also accused Trump of scheming with his valet, Walt Nauta, and a Mar-a-Lago property manager, Carlos De Oliveira, to try to conceal security camera footage from investigators after they issued a subpoena for it. Video from the property would ultimately play a significant role in the investigation because, prosecutors said, it captured Nauta moving boxes of documents in and out of a storage room — including a day before an FBI visit to the property. The boxes were moved at Trump’s direction, the indictment alleges.



https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-trump-special-counsel-b5589ea8f066ede51c8138665f108f7a#:~:text=Hur's%20report%20says%20the%20differences,aggravating%20facts%2C”%20Hur%20wrote.

 

[vantexan]

The report did not say Biden was a senile old man with dementia, @DriveInDriveOut lies, and a lot. There’s a reason he never posts sources

The quote was

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” the report said

It also said

Hur concluded there is not enough evidence to convict Biden of “willfully” retaining the Afghanistan documents or the notebooks

But Hur said Biden could convince some jurors his actions weren’t willful by arguing, for example, that he forgot about the documents shortly after finding them in 2017. It’s also possible the Afghanistan documents were never in the Virginia home at all, but were accidently kept without Biden’s knowledge in Delaware since he was vice president, Hur concluded.

Regarding the notebooks containing classified information, Hur concluded that Biden could plausibly argue if there were a trial that he believed that the notebooks were his personal property and he was allowed to take them home.

“During our interview of him, Mr. Biden was emphatic, declaring that his notebooks are ‘my property’ and that ‘every president before me has done the exact same thing,’ that is, kept handwritten classified materials after leaving office,” the report said.

Other classified documents found at the Penn Biden Center, Biden’s Delaware home, and among Senate papers at the University of Delaware “could plausibly have been brought to these locations by mistake,” Hur concluded.

Y'all can make excuses all you want but Biden willfully took many documents over many years from a secure facility, the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility(SCIF) which were and are felonies. Excuses were made just like they did for Hillary in spite of her going to great lengths to make sure no one could see the 33,000 emails she refused to turn over under subpoena. An old man with a poor memory isn't a defense.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The report did not say Biden was a senile old man with dementia, @DriveInDriveOut lies, and a lot. There’s a reason he never posts sources

The quote was

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” the report said

It also said

Hur concluded there is not enough evidence to convict Biden of “willfully” retaining the Afghanistan documents or the notebooks

But Hur said Biden could convince some jurors his actions weren’t willful by arguing, for example, that he forgot about the documents shortly after finding them in 2017. It’s also possible the Afghanistan documents were never in the Virginia home at all, but were accidently kept without Biden’s knowledge in Delaware since he was vice president, Hur concluded.

Regarding the notebooks containing classified information, Hur concluded that Biden could plausibly argue if there were a trial that he believed that the notebooks were his personal property and he was allowed to take them home.

“During our interview of him, Mr. Biden was emphatic, declaring that his notebooks are ‘my property’ and that ‘every president before me has done the exact same thing,’ that is, kept handwritten classified materials after leaving office,” the report said.

Other classified documents found at the Penn Biden Center, Biden’s Delaware home, and among Senate papers at the University of Delaware “could plausibly have been brought to these locations by mistake,” Hur concluded.

Blah blah blah you're a broken record.

Clearly said they're not charging him because he's an elderly man with a poor memory. What do you think dementia is exactly? Lol.

Yet you'll still vote for potatoe Joe to be president. Because you're told to.

 

[HarryWarden]

Blah blah blah you're a broken record.

Clearly said they're not charging him because he's an elderly man who with a poor memory. What do you think dementia is exactly? Lol.

Yet you'll still vote for potatoe Joe to be president. Because you're told to.

Should have charged him then, and at least shown they think the case is serious enough to try

But they know it’s not. So they threw in that line to appease people like you

And again, you ignore the part saying what trump did was worse

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Should have charged him then, and at least shown they think the case is serious enough to try

They should have tried a case they don't think they can get a jury to convict on because a jury won't convict an elderly dementia patient?

You seem to be very unfamiliar with the judicial system.

 

[HarryWarden]

They should have tried a case they don't think they can get a jury to convict on because a jury won't convict an elderly dementia patient?

You seem to be very unfamiliar with the judicial system.

Alzheimer's Patient, 71, Gets Six Months for Murder

A 71-year-old Alzheimer's patient has been sentenced to six months in prison in Houston, Texas, after confessing to murdering her husband 30 years ago.

abcnews.go.com

And once again, you are wrong

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Alzheimer's Patient, 71, Gets Six Months for Murder

A 71-year-old Alzheimer's patient has been sentenced to six months in prison in Houston, Texas, after confessing to murdering her husband 30 years ago.

abcnews.go.com

And once again, you are wrong

I disagree with your opinion that Biden's crimes are comparable to murder.

Seems more like Biden just had a disrespect for the rules that protect our national security.

 

[HarryWarden]

I disagree with your opinion that Biden's crimes are comparable to murder.

Seems more like Biden just had a disrespect for the rules that protect our national security.

Sure like moving the goalposts.

It was I don’t know about the judicial system and they wouldn’t convict a dementia patient

Now it’s “the crime isn’t bad enough”

Whatever, we’ve both said what we think.

You keep ignoring the special counsel saying what trump was worse, and we all know why

 

[Fred's Myth]

The report did not say Biden was a senile old man with dementia, @DriveInDriveOut lies, and a lot. There’s a reason he never posts sources

The quote was

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” the report said

It also said

Hur concluded there is not enough evidence to convict Biden of “willfully” retaining the Afghanistan documents or the notebooks

But Hur said Biden could convince some jurors his actions weren’t willful by arguing, for example, that he forgot about the documents shortly after finding them in 2017. It’s also possible the Afghanistan documents were never in the Virginia home at all, but were accidently kept without Biden’s knowledge in Delaware since he was vice president, Hur concluded.

Regarding the notebooks containing classified information, Hur concluded that Biden could plausibly argue if there were a trial that he believed that the notebooks were his personal property and he was allowed to take them home.

“During our interview of him, Mr. Biden was emphatic, declaring that his notebooks are ‘my property’ and that ‘every president before me has done the exact same thing,’ that is, kept handwritten classified materials after leaving office,” the report said.

Other classified documents found at the Penn Biden Center, Biden’s Delaware home, and among Senate papers at the University of Delaware “could plausibly have been brought to these locations by mistake,” Hur concluded.

He wasn't President when he 'acquired' the classified documents in his possession.

 

[vantexan]

Y'all can make excuses all you want but Biden willfully took many documents over many years from a secure facility, the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility(SCIF) which were and are felonies. Excuses were made just like they did for Hillary in spite of her going to great lengths to make sure no one could see the 33,000 emails she refused to turn over under subpoena. An old man with a poor memory isn't a defense.

@HarryWarden

 

[HarryWarden]

@HarryWarden

You should be upset with the republican trump appointed special counsel then, he’s the one that said what trump did was worse than Biden and he’s the one who declined to press charges against Biden

"We conclude that the evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt," the report says. "Prosecution of Mr. Biden is also unwarranted based on our consideration of the aggravating and mitigating factors."

 

[vantexan]

You should be upset with the republican trump appointed special counsel then, he’s the one that said what trump did was worse than Biden and he’s the one who declined to press charges against Biden

Hur was appointed special counsel by Merrick Garland. And he was confirmed unanimously by the Senate after being nominated by Trump for U.S. Attorney for Maryland. The president nominates, he doesn't appoint. And he came out of private practice to serve as special counsel. And he pretty much did what Special Counsel John Durham did, protected the powerful.

 

[HarryWarden]

Hur was appointed special counsel by Merrick Garland. And he was confirmed unanimously by the Senate after being nominated by Trump for U.S. Attorney for Maryland. The president nominates, he doesn't appoint. And he came out of private practice to serve as special counsel. And he pretty much did what Special Counsel John Durham did, protected the powerful.

“Hur oversaw one of the largest U.S. attorney's offices in the nation as the chief federal law enforcement officer in Maryland from 2018 to 2021. He was appointed by Trump and unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate to the role.”

 

[vantexan]

“Hur oversaw one of the largest U.S. attorney's offices in the nation as the chief federal law enforcement officer in Maryland from 2018 to 2021. He was appointed by Trump and unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate to the role.”

And? The Constitution says the president nominates then appoints after Senate confirmation. So the president doesn't just appoint. Your reasoning here is because Trump "appointed" him then we have to accept whatever he decides. I guarantee if he had brought charges against Biden for mishandling documents, which he said Biden did, then you and others would be going off about a "Trump appointee" and wouldn't accept it.

 

[HarryWarden]

I guarantee if he had brought charges against Biden for mishandling documents, which he said Biden did, then you and others would be going off about a "Trump appointee" and wouldn't accept it.

Yeah you’re probably right there, I’ll admit lol

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Now it’s “the crime isn’t bad enough”

Nope, you sure do like moving the goalposts.

I said the report shows they're not charging him because he has dementia.

Your response is an article about someone in Texas with dementia getting six months in jail for murder.

You apparently think Biden's crimes are the same or worse than murder. You're just being silly.

 

[Sportello]

Can you point out specifically where in the Hur report that says President Biden has dementia?

 

[PT Car Washer]

Can you point out specifically where in the Hur report that says President Biden has dementia?

It doesn't. He just likes to make up stuff.