Tips for Panel (as on topic as possible)
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Wally
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FrigidFTSup
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Indecisi0n
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We have so many old people here.
You don't have to beg for your job, but you must be humble and show some remorse for your mistake. Know a 20 year guy who had his termination upheld because his pride got in the way. Half ass admitted he shouldn't have done what he did, but continued to try to justify why he did it all the way to the end (against the advice of his representation). Ultimately UPS felt so strongly that he shouldn't come back, because he wouldn't take full responsibility, that they were willing to give 2 other guys who had worse offenses, but were remorseful, (also had good reputations and records) their jobs back in trade for his termination to be upheld.
MC4YOU2
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The panel has 3 union members and 3 company members who will decide the fate of your "friend" haha.
On a serious note, he can only win by convincing at least one company panel member, along with all three union panel members.
He can also only lose if he fails to convince at least one union member along with all three company members on the merits of his case.
If terminations are being upheld, it's because the union is voting with the company, not because they're weak. It's 3 to 3, so it's anyone's game to win or lose.
It's always possible to have a different combo of 4 or 5 votes (or even unanimous) of a different mix than I listed above, but if he can't even convince one of the 3 union members, there's something very wrong with his case.
I will add that it's become a tactic of the company to deadlock even sensible cases to force them into arbitration, in an effort to exact extra punishment on an employee they don't have a lot of love for.
If that's the case, it can mean many months of being off while you wait.
On a serious note, he can only win by convincing at least one company panel member, along with all three union panel members.
He can also only lose if he fails to convince at least one union member along with all three company members on the merits of his case.
If terminations are being upheld, it's because the union is voting with the company, not because they're weak. It's 3 to 3, so it's anyone's game to win or lose.
It's always possible to have a different combo of 4 or 5 votes (or even unanimous) of a different mix than I listed above, but if he can't even convince one of the 3 union members, there's something very wrong with his case.
I will add that it's become a tactic of the company to deadlock even sensible cases to force them into arbitration, in an effort to exact extra punishment on an employee they don't have a lot of love for.
If that's the case, it can mean many months of being off while you wait.
In my region, the arbitrator sits right there with the panel and votes with them after the hearing, if necessary.
john chesney
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I know you don’t want to say what happened and I can’t blame you on here but it’s a hard question to answer with no idea what’s going on. Some cases are pure mercy with an apology and humility. Years of service and past troubles play a part.If you want to pm facts I can tell you what I think
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Knowing what he did is only part of it------you would need to know what kind of employee he was in order to offer informed advice on how to proceed at the panel hearing.
Indecisi0n
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I wonder if @MyTripisCut got fired, oh wait, i mean his "buddy".
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Indecisi0n
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MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Nope.
Stick to the story that he gave at the local level hearing. Be ready to answer the same question asked up to 10 differently presented ways. They try and catch you in lies. Dress professionally and shave. Be remorseful and take ownership in what has transpired. Tell them what your job means to you, the people who count on you, kids, family, customers, and company. Your most important thing is to get back in that door. You can regroup and turn the tables at a later date. You can call me if you need to talk.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
All right @Monkey Butt. Can you close this one down? Seems to have run its course my half baked, music loving friend.
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Pm that d*
Indecisi0n
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I'll lock it down.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Ok......
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