Trump breaking unions

vantexan

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How has he helped Unions?

He’s on record 100% for RTW.

His administration has slashed worker protections for wage theft, killed overtime rules, rolled back worker safety laws, targeted collective bargaining in both the public and private sector, slashed the budget for the NLRB while boosting the budget for the OMLS, put a known Union-buster in as Secretary of Labor (?), on and on and on.

Guy, if you think Trump is good for Unions, I have a bridge to sell you.
Nah, it's just fun to ask a simple question and watch you go off. Kind of cathartic, huh? :)
 

newfie

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Please tell me that @newfie isn't management at UPS. Seriously, please say it's not so.

I know that we don't have an IQ test for management or anything(obviously), but I've always been under the impression that they were fairly good at hiring and promoting somewhat intelligent people to the FT management positions. At least, in my experience, which comes from my building, where the management team are :censored2:s, but :censored2:s that can still spell and form a correct sentence. :censored2:s that keep the building running pretty smoothly, granted with huge helping hand from a group of teamsters who make them look pretty good despite some of their mistakes, but still they know what's up in life and our business for the most part.

If he is in management, my opinion of this company just took a major step down.

I think it might prompt me to go so far as to print out some of his posts and put them up on the bulletin board with a note explaining that this man and his poorly spelled, fragmented sentences, devoid of punctuation is managing others at this company.

Just for the laughs.

What percentage of hourlies do we think spell and write better than him? Probably what 95%? Conservatively 90%? It's definitely no less than 80%, and I'd put my life on the line betting this.

I've not seen him work with numbers or do any math, but I'm sure if his spelling and outlook on current events is any indication, he's not winning the Field's Medal anytime soon either.

i appears i have an obsessed fan. I thank you for the tribute.
 

newfie

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I was thinking. If I lost my union job, I could go get as much benzos and adderall as the quacks will prescribe me while I still have insurance. Then I could apply for as many 0% apr for a year credit cards as I can get with my credit history and using my good pay stubs. Then I could go buy a pound of dro. Then I could open up shop and give people sweet heart deals on used cars that I flip using the credit cards to get fraudulent bills of sale to launder my little bit of drug income, also paying off my credit cards. I could also buy some pittbulls to breed and claim I’m selling them for thousands to help hide income same as the cars. Slowly work my way up to my first birdie or two. Then I’ll be on my new career path :)
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your affinity for nonsense is magical
 

newfie

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They say Trump does value loyalty above all else, much like a mob boss, which he more closely resembles, than he does a United States President.

I guess they're aware of this fact, and they're simply all-in with him, like you said.

Myself, I'm not that type. I've liked some politicians over the years, and I've been in their corner, and taken up for them when people were cutting them down. But I'll also admit when they're wrong, and I'll always call them out if they're outright lying to our face.

To do otherwise, is absolutely pussified, and totally un-American. People literally died for us to be able to have the right to criticize our leadership - in the name of freedom.

I've noticed this weird thing they have with Hillary, as I'm sure you all have too, like we on the liberal side are afraid to admit her faults and worship at her altar. I'm starting to see a correlation between their unabashed love affair with ALL things Trump, and their projection onto liberals about Hillary's shortcomings - they are ashamed about the support for Trump and his lies, and they want, no, NEED us to feel the same about her to help justify their weird love of the orange one.

They don't seem to get that none of us care about her anymore, and we're on to the next election, and working to resist Trump and defeat his bid for a 2cd term. It's a twisted obsession they have with her.

At least most on the left will admit to being damn near obsessed with Trump's defeat, I know I do. There's not a day that passes that I don't think about Trump, and how I cannot wait until he's voted out of office or removed by consequence of his own actions. I can't imagine he'd ever cross my mind much if Hillary or Bernie had won though - I'd be enjoying the victory and looking toward 2020 with my eyes on another term, not focused on that vanquished scumbag Donny :censored2:-Face.

could you warn us when you're actually going to make a serious well reasoned post so we can know that we have a post from you that may be worth reading?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
They say Trump does value loyalty above all else, much like a mob boss, which he more closely resembles, than he does a United States President.

I guess they're aware of this fact, and they're simply all-in with him, like you said.

Myself, I'm not that type. I've liked some politicians over the years, and I've been in their corner, and taken up for them when people were cutting them down. But I'll also admit when they're wrong, and I'll always call them out if they're outright lying to our face.

To do otherwise, is absolutely pussified, and totally un-American. People literally died for us to be able to have the right to criticize our leadership - in the name of freedom.

I've noticed this weird thing they have with Hillary, as I'm sure you all have too, like we on the liberal side are afraid to admit her faults and worship at her altar. I'm starting to see a correlation between their unabashed love affair with ALL things Trump, and their projection onto liberals about Hillary's shortcomings - they are ashamed about the support for Trump and his lies, and they want, no, NEED us to feel the same about her to help justify their weird love of the orange one.

They don't seem to get that none of us care about her anymore, and we're on to the next election, and working to resist Trump and defeat his bid for a 2cd term. It's a twisted obsession they have with her.

At least most on the left will admit to being damn near obsessed with Trump's defeat, I know I do. There's not a day that passes that I don't think about Trump, and how I cannot wait until he's voted out of office or removed by consequence of his own actions. I can't imagine he'd ever cross my mind much if Hillary or Bernie had won though - I'd be enjoying the victory and looking toward 2020 with my eyes on another term, not focused on that vanquished scumbag Donny :censored2:-Face.
The thing with Hillary is you ignore all she did, claim she's been investigated repeatedly which proves there's nothing there, and meanwhile act like Trump did horrendous things obstructing an investigation that somehow managed to get finished with no one being fired and access was given to Trump aides and documents. Bizarro world. Even Bill Maher admitted the other day that she obstructed justice by deleting her emails, used bleachbit on the server and smashed her connected devices. How could that not be obstruction when she was under subpoena to turn all of that over? Let alone conducting business in clear violation of the Espionage Act. And yet you snicker about our obsession with her. Can only imagine the 24/7 coverage if Trump or any Republican had done the same.
 

newfie

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The thing with Hillary is you ignore all she did, claim she's been investigated repeatedly which proves there's nothing there, and meanwhile act like Trump did horrendous things obstructing an investigation that somehow managed to get finished with no one being fired and access was given to Trump aides and documents. Bizarro world. Even Bill Maher admitted the other day that she obstructed justice by deleting her emails, used bleachbit on the server and smashed her connected devices. How could that not be obstruction when she was under subpoena to turn all of that over? Let alone conducting business in clear violation of the Espionage Act. And yet you snicker about our obsession with her. Can only imagine the 24/7 coverage if Trump or any Republican had done the same.

Hillary is the noose around their necks. everything they try to fabricate against trump was actually done by Hillary on a much grander scale.

you want to accuse Trump of obstruction for conversations he had that were not acted on?
I got Hillary deleting emails and destroying cell phones and computer hard drives after a subpoena was presented for that information.

verbal obstruction versus willful physical obstruction by Hillary
 

LarryBird

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The thing with Hillary is you ignore all she did, claim she's been investigated repeatedly which proves there's nothing there, and meanwhile act like Trump did horrendous things obstructing an investigation that somehow managed to get finished with no one being fired and access was given to Trump aides and documents. Bizarro world. Even Bill Maher admitted the other day that she obstructed justice by deleting her emails, used bleachbit on the server and smashed her connected devices. How could that not be obstruction when she was under subpoena to turn all of that over? Let alone conducting business in clear violation of the Espionage Act. And yet you snicker about our obsession with her. Can only imagine the 24/7 coverage if Trump or any Republican had done the same.
The thing is, I don't see anyone defending Hillary, and almost nobody cares about her anymore outside of conservatives who are salty. But they're directing their ire in the wrong direction, because if they're so pissed off about Hillary not being held accountable, that anger should be directed at the Dear Leader, the guy who promised to have her locked up as his first order of business after his election to the Presidency.

I understand there's a long list of promises that he's failed to keep, or even work toward in the least, so it might not be that high on your priority list, but it sure rents space in your heads.
 

bacha29

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Please tell me that @newfie isn't management at UPS. Seriously, please say it's not so.

I know that we don't have an IQ test for management or anything(obviously), but I've always been under the impression that they were fairly good at hiring and promoting somewhat intelligent people to the FT management positions. At least, in my experience, which comes from my building, where the management team are :censored2:s, but :censored2:s that can still spell and form a correct sentence. :censored2:s that keep the building running pretty smoothly, granted with huge helping hand from a group of teamsters who make them look pretty good despite some of their mistakes, but still they know what's up in life and our business for the most part.

If he is in management, my opinion of this company just took a major step down.

I think it might prompt me to go so far as to print out some of his posts and put them up on the bulletin board with a note explaining that this man and his poorly spelled, fragmented sentences, devoid of punctuation is managing others at this company.

Just for the laughs.

What percentage of hourlies do we think spell and write better than him? Probably what 95%? Conservatively 90%? It's definitely no less than 80%, and I'd put my life on the line betting this.

I've not seen him work with numbers or do any math, but I'm sure if his spelling and outlook on current events is any indication, he's not winning the Field's Medal anytime soon either.
it's true. In fact just the other day he was named Fourth Assistant Vice President Of Nonessential Operations.
 

vantexan

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The thing is, I don't see anyone defending Hillary, and almost nobody cares about her anymore outside of conservatives who are salty. But they're directing their ire in the wrong direction, because if they're so pissed off about Hillary not being held accountable, that anger should be directed at the Dear Leader, the guy who promised to have her locked up as his first order of business after his election to the Presidency.

I understand there's a long list of promises that he's failed to keep, or even work toward in the least, so it might not be that high on your priority list, but it sure rents space in your heads.
And yet you snicker and scoff every time we mention her. It's not up to Trump to prosecute her but the Attorney General. He doesn't do so on the orders of the President. We had a feckless attorney general who got fired for being ineffectual. We have one in now who is doing what he is supposed to, and soon I expect the liberals to be screaming about the charges he will bring.
 

newfie

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And yet you snicker and scoff every time we mention her. It's not up to Trump to prosecute her but the Attorney General. He doesn't do so on the orders of the President. We had a feckless attorney general who got fired for being ineffectual. We have one in now who is doing what he is supposed to, and soon I expect the liberals to be screaming about the charges he will bring.

they're already practicing their proactive scream
 

BrownArmy

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And yet you snicker and scoff every time we mention her. It's not up to Trump to prosecute her but the Attorney General. He doesn't do so on the orders of the President. We had a feckless attorney general who got fired for being ineffectual. We have one in now who is doing what he is supposed to, and soon I expect the liberals to be screaming about the charges he will bring.

Don’t hold your breath...
 

BrownArmy

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Eliminate tariffs, now!
Yeah, better the Chinese have full employment than an American.

That doesn’t make any sense.

Chinese employment vs American employment has nothing to do with tariffs.

(sad-face, this is how Trump won last time; uninformed voters)

How’s your tax-cut working out?
 

LarryBird

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That doesn’t make any sense.

Chinese employment vs American employment has nothing to do with tariffs.

(sad-face, this is how Trump won last time; uninformed voters)

How’s your tax-cut working out?
I started to type out a reply to him about that as well, but then I thought better of it.

Chinese employment?! Where do they come up with this :censored2:?
 
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