Ukrainians be like:

newfie

Well-Known Member
Source on the bio labs doing researched banned in America. Yes governments are corrupt surprise surprise, why exactly is that important while discussing the war?
I do care about America’s enemies. Strange how you people just wish to turn a blind eye to them while endlessly bashing allies under attack.
Trump was right. Our allies are in bed with our enemies as whore's to their oil. Our allies refused to live up to their Nato committments with the anticipation that we would send our sons and daughters to die for them if they were attacked.
Trump is a very wise man despite the liberals efforts to paint him otherwise
 

jimdandy3

Impeach Hunter Biden
I havent seen those pictures. I have seen a leader thats standing his ground. It would be too easy for him to pull back to a city close to poland and lead there. Instead he's with his people on what is the front line of that war.
How do you know this to be true?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Source on the bio labs doing researched banned in America. Yes governments are corrupt surprise surprise, why exactly is that important while discussing the war?
I do care about America’s enemies. Strange how you people just wish to turn a blind eye to them while endlessly bashing allies under attack.

Is Ukraine an ally? Or just friendly with deep state/globalist enemies charading as US government officials? The USSR was our ally during the last legit war we fought in, when the commies were in charge. Now that Russia is a better example of a liberal democracy, we find ourselves allied with the commies running the EU, ourselves infiltrated by many commies, on many levels. You people pretend that geopolitics is black and white, 2-bit level resolution, it's not. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my friend, then, other times, they are my enemy again.

Do I need to ask if you still believe in the ghost of Kiev? Or that the snake island sailors stood their ground, dying heroic, defiant deaths in the face of overwhelming odds? Or that beauty queens holding air soft rifles will be standing their ground against Russian tanks?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Trump was right. Our allies are in bed with our enemies as whore's to their oil. Our allies refused to live up to their Nato committments with the anticipation that we would send our sons and daughters to die for them if they were attacked.
Trump is a very wise man despite the liberals efforts to paint him otherwise

Trump also found a way to get along with one of the few people as smeared by the mefia as he was. Trump kicked a hornet's nest when he poked his nose into Ukraine. I wonder why democrats and rinos, and the mefia, were so nervous about that.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
You just answered the question I just sent, before I sent it.

Zelensky is a globalist puppet. Putin puts the interests of Russia before the interests of the enemy of all people, the globalists. Russia's interests and/or Putin's actions may not always align with the principles of freedom and liberty that I hold dear, but the globalists are hell bent on making slaves of everyone, and massive, global genocide.

Which prom date would you pick? A Russian Nationalist who you don't particularly like? Or the one who Is actively trying to cut your balls off and shove them down your throat until you choke to death, stealing your wallet, trying to inject you with stuff you don't want, while at the same time claiming that's not happening? Maybe you like the psycho, gaslighting type.
 
Trump was right. Our allies are in bed with our enemies as whore's to their oil. Our allies refused to live up to their Nato committments with the anticipation that we would send our sons and daughters to die for them if they were attacked.
Trump is a very wise man despite the liberals efforts to paint him otherwise
China is also propping up to Russian market by buying lots of their stocks

Hmm....
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I agree Ukraine's leadership is corrupt. I dont agree that Russia has a right to invade them.
Like we didn't have the right to invade Syria, Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc etc. Or is it just ok when the US does it?
I don't agree that Russia has a right to put their innocent people in harms way. Its that simple for me and anything else is muddy waters.

Let me know when Russia intentionally violates the rules of war. Oh, right, you probably believe the Twitter reports about them trying to trigger meltdowns at nuclear power plants.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
The USSR was our ally during the last legit war we fought in, when the commies were in charge. Now that Russia is a better example of a liberal democracy, we find ourselves allied with the commies running the EU, ourselves infiltrated by many commies, on many levels.
I asked for some simple things friend.
Instead you decided to go full dum dum.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Trump was right. Our allies are in bed with our enemies as whore's to their oil. Our allies refused to live up to their Nato committments with the anticipation that we would send our sons and daughters to die for them if they were attacked.
Trump is a very wise man despite the liberals efforts to paint him otherwise
America is nato, always has been. Western Europe is part of the expanding US sphere of influence.
It betters the people’s lives, modernizes their countries and economies. Putin is the opposite of that.
No one is forcing you to send a son or daughter, no one is even discussing that. They volunteered to be soldiers in the america empire. We don’t need to waste tax dollars so your son or daughter can “defend” the homeland. You don’t need to join the military to sit outside your daddy’s farm with a rifle for when the Chinese invade. The US military is to prevent US interest abroad from being compromised, to expand the US sphere of influence.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Do I need to ask if you still believe in the ghost of Kiev? Or that the snake island sailors stood their ground, dying heroic, defiant deaths in the face of overwhelming odds? Or that beauty queens holding air soft rifles will be standing their ground against Russian tanks?
Who brought up any of this?
I merely called you out for a source on the bio labs being illegal or nefarious.
I reassured you that yes government is corrupt, Joe Biden is corrupt, but what does that have to do with letting Russia topple a democracy and ally?

You sit around just spewing garbage, yes the media are liars, but that doesn’t mean you have to automatically disagree with the end goal of their lies. You don’t have to buy into the lies and propaganda of the enemy, Russia, to be some contrarian to the BS Ukraine and the media are spilling right now during wartime propaganda.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Like we didn't have the right to invade Syria, Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc etc. Or is it just ok when the US does it?


Let me know when Russia intentionally violates the rules of war. Oh, right, you probably believe the Twitter reports about them trying to trigger meltdowns at nuclear power plants.
Did we purposely shell civilian neighborhoods? I know things happened, but did we set about terrorizing civilians as a strategy to pacify a population?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Did we purposely shell civilian neighborhoods? I know things happened, but did we set about terrorizing civilians as a strategy to pacify a population?

Like Ukraine was doing in the Donbas region? It's ok, you're a chicken hawk, you like war, and adhere to a WWII era naive approach about who our "allies" are.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Who brought up any of this?
I merely called you out for a source on the bio labs being illegal or nefarious.
I reassured you that yes government is corrupt, Joe Biden is corrupt, but what does that have to do with letting Russia topple a democracy and ally?

You sit around just spewing garbage, yes the media are liars, but that doesn’t mean you have to automatically disagree with the end goal of their lies. You don’t have to buy into the lies and propaganda of the enemy, Russia, to be some contrarian to the BS Ukraine and the media are spilling right now during wartime propaganda.

I brought it up because it's relevant. You only want to look at two factors, both being incorrect, to inform your opinion. That's cool. By all means, let your limitations make you feel bold enough to demonstrate your lack of understanding.

I guess the DOD was funding the labs for humanitarian purposes, and they scrubbed their existence from the US embassy's website because everything was on the up and up. And murdering over 1000 soldiers with experiments was a justifiable oopsie in the pursuit of bioweapons, er, I mean "science". It's ok that you're a misinformed chicken hawk, embrace it.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
...Hungary before entering Croatia, slamming into a field near a student dormitory late Thursday. About 40 parked cars were damaged in the large explosion, but no one was injured.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Like Ukraine was doing in the Donbas region? It's ok, you're a chicken hawk, you like war, and adhere to a WWII era naive approach about who our "allies" are.
The Ukrainians were fighting rebels in the Donbas. Where was the stream of refugees into Russia? Again, you talked of the U.S. doing the same as the Russians indiscriminately shelling civilian neighborhoods. Civilians died, they always do. But where was the mass displacement of refugees due to attacking the civilian population like in Ukraine? Guys like you make these statements then when you can't back them up you get personal. I'm asking you legitimate questions. If you can't answer and try to shut the questioning down with personal attacks how are you any different than those saying you support Putin if you don't go along with everything they're saying? One of the oldest sayings about war is the first casualty of war is the truth. Obviously the Ukrainians were trying to rally the troops and international support with propaganda. What someone here might not understand is they're used to doing that. Propaganda is normal there. What they might not understand is people in the West are turned off by the manipulation. All kinds of factors to consider. Everything isn't the same cookie cutter pattern around the world and our interpretation of events may be different than their perception.
 
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