Union certified Safety committee

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Derf, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    Management says alot of stupid lies because some sheep believe them. DOK is a settled issue. It is not a requirement for employment.
     
  2. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    I don't answer any safety questions asked by another teamster..... period. If management wants to know, they can ask me themselves
     
  3. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    It's pretty simple. If you're a part timer going into a full time package car position and the disqualify you for not knowing DOK. Then in my opinion you should grieve it.
     
  4. NXA

    NXA Active Member

    Help me with some documentation please ?
     
  5. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    If the pt timer is sitting at home in front of his computer he merely uses the cheat sheet method to fill in the blanks on the electronic application. He doesn't learn them. He copies them. So none of them get disqualified.
    The issue is what happens after that when they qualify. Bug alluded to possible exceptions and I asked about that (for the third time now) possibility.
     
  6. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    Let me fore warn you about Pay Pal options. It's coming.


    Slowly.


    But it's coming.
     
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  7. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    It's a management function period. Why should I have to answer management derived questions to any hourly?
     
  8. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    It would be helpful to be able to log in to a site where affected members could submit their proposal ideas under multiple issue titled catagories and (like the eri) a section to interject thoughts on any other changes they would like to see made.
     
  9. NXA

    NXA Active Member

    ??
    That's fair to say. But to make a change in my building's modus operandi, it might help me and others to have the documents that BUG is alluding to.
     
  10. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    I got it. I agree. But you'll have to PM @Bubblehead to figure out how the Pay Pal function works on here .... Or maybe get it from the horse's mouth... @BigUnionGuy .
     
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  11. LeadBelly2.0

    LeadBelly2.0 Well-Known Member

    I agree, but this site isn't in the equation for this. your local has contract proposal meetings when the contract is about to begin being negotiated.

    What you are proposing would be a an outside the box idea that I'm not sure the IBT could have the foresight for, even if they knew it was needed.
     
  12. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    Hopefully, we get communication flowing earlier this time around. A lot earlier.
     
  13. Seriously dude can't you come up with an original name?

    @10 point
     
  14. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    Well there is a date on the contract book that gives you a good idea when they're going to start negotiating. Our locals sends a letter to the UPS facilities and has a proposal meeting. Not sure how much more communication you need. I could call every UPS member and remind them and the number of people who show up will be the same.

    People love to complain but never take part in the process.
     
  15. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    I think you missed the point. Having negativity as a strong suit is not necessarily productive.
     
  16. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    Sorry.
     
  17. Don't apologise to me. But you newbies should really look around before picking a username
     
  18. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    No negativity. I just could never understand why something so important to your career like your contract and the business of your local, you pay dues to, isn't important.

    Everyone wants the Union to "lure", like a fish, the members to be more involved. How about taking initiative in something that's important in their life.
    I can't speak for BUG, but in my opinion the only exception is if a supervisor comes to you and says recite the 10 point commentary and you say no. I will not. You then failed to follow instructions. I tell them what I know and they say you should know these, and I say I do. I use them every day while on the road and I move on.
     
  19. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Had a guy with 35 years of safe driving and no injuries in his career, but he couldn't recite one line so the sup threatened to fire him. As his steward I begged the sup to follow through as I explained I'd make the sup look like an absolute idiot at a panel for firing a guy that practices what they preach every day. Some guys just aren't good at memorization.
     
  20. 10 Pt

    10 Pt Member

    I have been to every proposal meeting since 2001. I wasn't even talking about that.
    I was talking about the company and the IBT getting things hammered out earlier and better than the last time and with better and more detailed communication to members.
    I don't know where you derived your posted overview of what I was saying.
    I got that.
    The question I had (for the fourth time now) was about prerequisites for going to Integrad and the view the company takes on those hourly that have to memorize (seemingly, but knowingly cheated often to assimilate memorization) the endless safety lexicon to start qualification of the full time job they're vying for.
    Never mind about it. I can't waste anymore time on this. My finger is getting hoarse.