Union questions

[Bubblehead]

@PT Car Washer don't get me wrong, do what the Company instructs you to do, cash your checks and sleep soundly.

....just please don't live under the delusion that it is OK or "unavoidable".

I always enjoyed your perspectives and posts, but wholeheartedly disagree with you on this issue.

No offense intended.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I'm not sure what you mean by this.



Does the company not utilize the progressive discipline procedure for chronic attendance issues ?

Is there a progressive discipline procedure for chronic attendance issues? News to me. What is the definition of chronic? I mean how many absences make you chronic?

 

[PT Car Washer]

@PT Car Washer don't get me wrong, do what the Company instructs you to do, cash your checks and sleep soundly.

....just please don't live under the delusion that it is OK or "unavoidable".

I always enjoyed your perspectives and posts, but wholeheartedly disagree with you on this issue.

No offense intended.

Started out just being me helping with pick ups or going with a sup to ccver a route during the great recession because UPS didn't want to hire extra drivers. As I gained more and more area and route knowledge, it has gotten to the point where I am a PT cover driver somedays. They also use 22.3 air drivers even more like cover drivers than me. Some of the other PT air drivers saw how much money could be made doing ground work ($500/wk or $2k/wk) they jumped at it. I can see it ending sometime with all of the new 22.4 drivers. About the same time I decide to permanently hang up the DIAD. Delivered LIBs this morning and pick ups for a driver on second day by herself this afternoon and car wash. 12 hours at top driver rate.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Is there a progressive discipline procedure for chronic attendance issues? News to me.

Seriously ?

What is the definition of chronic? I mean how many absences make you chronic?

Well....

It's changed over time. When (we) started, it used to be 6%.... which equated to 1 occurrence every 30 working days.

4 occurrences in a 9 month period was a "talk with".

5 was a Union contact.

6 was a warning letter.

7 was a local level hearing.


Granted, now it's all over the board.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Seriously ?



Well....

It's changed over time. When (we) started, it used to be 6%.... which equated to 1 occurrence every 30 working days.

4 occurrences in a 9 month period was a "talk with".

5 was a Union contact.

6 was a warning letter.

7 was a local level hearing.


Granted, now it's all over the board.

Talk with. LOL.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Talk with. LOL.

You remember....

PT supes wore white shirts and ties.

Ft supes wore 3 piece suits.

 

[Bubblehead]

....all documented in your Pittsburgh file.

 

[burrheadd]

....all documented in your Pittsburgh file.

Anybody know why it’s called a Pittsburg file? Never could get anybody to tell me

 

[Boywondr]

One good thing about in scabs you cannot vote on a contract or for election of our leadership

Looks like they already did.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Looks like they already did.

Our own membership failed to vote, it's very sad

 

[Boywondr]

Our own membership failed to vote, it's very sad

Multiple reasons.
Still sad.

 

[Boywondr]

Anybody know why it’s called a Pittsburg file? Never could get anybody to tell me

Probably because it's the city where the 'browns' get disciplined.

 

[Boywondr]

You remember....

PT supes wore white shirts and ties.

Ft supes wore 3 piece suits.

And...
integrity in management meant something.
The dodo bird lasted longer than that attribute although both are now extinct.

 

[542thruNthru]

The only people who need "protection" are the lazy bums who should be fired. Maybe I'll change my mind once I start getting benefits but for now I think I'll stay out of it because I've never given anyone a reason to fire me. Supervisor seem okay.

The simple minded never see the full picture.

 

[Hot Carl]

The simple minded never see the full picture.
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I'd love to know this guy's secret. Every PTer that got promoted to FT driving this year was shorted on their pay for months before they finally corrected it and now we've been waiting at least 3 months for backpay. We have filed and filed and my patience is starting to run out.

 

[trickpony1]

my patience is starting to run out.

Contact the Dept of Labor.
This should move things along.

Hope this helps.

 

[quad decade guy]

Anybody know why it’s called a Pittsburg file? Never could get anybody to tell me

It says it right on the form. I asked this question 40 years ago. They showed it to me.....after they wrote me up. BTW, not Pittsburgh file but form. Your file has many things in it including your Pittsburgh "form"......especially someone like you.

 

[burrheadd]

It says it right on the form. I asked this question 40 years ago. They showed it to me.....after they wrote me up. BTW, not Pittsburgh file but form. Your file has many things in it including your Pittsburgh "form"......especially someone like you.

Lots of words but no real answer
Do you realize you talk in circles most of the time

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

The simple minded never see the full picture.
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Good to see it happens in some places.

 

[Boywondr]

The simple minded never see the full picture.
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Great job hanging in there! Some don't last the final round.

Good to see it happens in some places.

I know of an employee who fought for three years for back pay. The BA and LM worked together to drag this out so the employee wrote a letter to the closest Intl VP and sent copies of the grievances with the letter. The VP put them into the hands of KH and the hammer came down. The employee got the back pay plus penalty pay. The BA and LM got nlrb charges.

It was a win because everyone got something!