UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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It would make no sense to hire you as a helper in the hub closer to your home.
Union won't let me work for another hub
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It would make no sense to hire you as a helper in the hub closer to your home.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You think it is fair for seasonal employees to pay dues and/or initiation fees?
watdaflock?
Well-Known Member
Typical union response. Don't you feel it's a little bit wrong what the union does to seasonal employees?
No doubt about it. It'll be fun attempting to find out how many of the 95k seasonal workers brought in paid union fees and how many end up actually being hired earning seniority.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Dave's alter ego?
We are in agreement on just one thing.
watdaflock?
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This is starting to sound like abbott and costello who's on first skit.
The hub closest to my home is where I work. The hub where I work does not deliver to my home.
They (the other hub 30+ miles away) picks up a jumper most likely 200 meters from my front door.
PiedmontSteward
RTW-4-Less
Seasonal employees should pay dues but should never pay initiation fees.
A seasonal hire in the hub would be making a base rate of pay at $10/hour. Under the IBT constitution (to the best of my knowledge) members making less than $11/hr pay 2x their hourly rate in dues. That's $20 a month ($5/week) when they'll probably be working 25-40 hours a week.
Seasonal package car drivers (depending on area) will be making between $18-24/hour. They should absolutely pay dues.
Hitting someone over the head for initiation fees for working a month and a half, however, is indefensible.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Sorry---I misread your post.
You should be allowed to be a helper in the hub where you work, not the one that delivers to your home. Letting you help in the latter hub could be unfair to an insider in that hub who also wants to be a helper. The only way it would be fair is if every PTer was asked whether they wanted to help or not and there were still openings.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I respectfully disagree, especially if they are here for less than 30 days. If they are retained after Peak the Union can collect "back dues" if they so choose.l
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
It's just easier for ups to hire some schmuck off the street...it is what it is. If i work 6 days during peak...I clear almost 50 hours anyway....half of which is OT. By Sat this week I'll have 37 hours...plus my 8 holiday hours. Hoping to make a grand this week! lol
Fair is a subjective word. Maybe you should use right or wrong. As I said you work in a union shop you should be paying union dues. If you get hired on after peak than you should be paying initiation fees. If you don't get hired on after peak you can request a refund from the local you worked in.
If you don't want to pay union dues than go find a non union job. We wouldn't be making what we do, have the benefits we have and the rights we get in the contract if we didn't pay union dues be it as a seasonal, pt of FT employee.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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We have a hard enough time getting helpers. Can you imagine how much more difficult it would be if we told they would have to pay union dues yet would not be protected by the union?
Do you think the local wants to collect dues only to have to refund them one month later?
Do you think the local wants to collect dues only to have to refund them one month later?
In that case they would just need to hire more FT drivers. It is what it is Dave most people don't request a refund just like most people do return the can and bottle that they pay a $.05 deposit on in NY.
watdaflock?
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I understand and agree with you if they have a jumper who is an insider at the hub who delivers to my home.
If they were not allowing me to work (for the hub who delivers to my home) because of bringing in a temp seasonal (not already inside) has been my question.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Are they both in the same local?
watdaflock?
Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure they are the same local, yes.
oldngray
nowhere special
You stated your local in another thread and both hubs in that city are the same local.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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So, if they are both in the same local and you are unable to work as a helper in your hub, I don't see why you couldn't do so in the other, provided that everyone in that hub was asked and they still had openings. Kind of late now but something to think about for next year.
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Mike hunt
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Grieve it this year and get a decision by about September and maybe you can do it next year.
The OP doesn't have a grievance. He has an issue with company or union protocol.
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