Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MuricaMan01, Feb 5, 2019.
No, this is how Hoffa is interpreting the IBT Constitution this time, after interpreting it to the contrary in 2013 (I'll assume that's what you meant).
I saw this most recent "interpretation" as a possibility months before the vote, and asked anybody I could (some were pretty big ballers), and they all said no....or "I don't know".
....I believe they all knew all along, but what good does that do us now???
This is one of many reasons why I accused you of "lip service".
....why do you "disagree", because unless you qualify it, who cares???
I walked right into that one, well played @Integrity.
Sure seems like IBT is celebrating...
Celebrating what ?
Not having to waste more time and money negotiating with the company on
contractual language.... that the members won't vote on ?
No- that 65% voted no yet they make it seem like it passed by a landslide. You can save your dissertation. Everyone is aware that your OPINION is the only one that matters. Others are allowed to have opinions as well Big Union Man.
The minority doesn't get to dictate and determine the outcome.
Maybe if the members were more involved, you would have had a better result.
Do you think I enjoy seeing that ?
It wasn't a minority. You sure are stubborn. You should be embarrassed.
Sounds like you aren’t a fan of DT????
You are welcome.
3979 members were eligible to vote.
1204 voted no.... I'd call that a minority of the members.
Upstate and Western New York Supplement Local Union Vote Results - UPS Rising
Three Locals actually approved the supplement, with Local 529 at 82.35%.
I've never met the man.
Two friends of mine are high ranking Union Officials and are both on the
National negotiating committee, and have told me he's a sharp guy.
All I've ever said.... the members were in control of their own destiny and
dropped the ball, by not participating.
It's an inherited ethnical trait, known as "sisu".
For the most part it's been a blessing.... but at times, has been a curse.
Oh- so one local approved it "at 82.35%". So must be that number means nothing according to the way you like to define things. Shouldn't matter how many eligible people vote. What should matter is the results based on those who voted. Again- you can save your opinion because we will never agree. I have a feeling that if you still worked at UPS, if you really ever did, you would have a much different outlook. You will say different, but most that leave there for "elected office" forget where they came from. You are free to go on pretending none of this is the case.
Three out of seven Locals approved it.
Local 529 - 82.35% voted yes
Local 118 - 75% voted yes
Local 317 - 56.09% voted yes
Only one Local 294.... had more than a 50% participation.
A vocal minority, expecting to control the situation....
Isn't that called "mob rule" ?
There is that elitist UPS attitude.
They think, they are the only Teamsters in the Union and should be catered too.
I believe in the required 2/3 majority when not enough vote.
Yeah, we heard you and he wasn't talking to you anyway.
I am hoping it gets down to 1 or 2 supplements hanging and they continue to vote no at better than a 50% clip, so all of this rhetoric is exposed as when Hoffa imposes it anyway, using some other "interpretation" of the IBT Constitution.
UPSer's aren't "elitist", just the opposite....as the majority are under-compensated part time, indigent workers, in disposable, high turnover jobs.
That's why they don't vote.
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