Upstate and Western New York.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MuricaMan01, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Not always???

    @browned out has been caving your head in for the past month.

    It's been kind of sad to watch, because like @BakerMayfield2018, I always appreciated how you handle yourself and enjoyed watching and participating in "the joust".
    I always knew that reality is that we agree on way more than we disagree.

    But now, instead of acknowledging the most basic of Teamsters premises (like reproach), you continually deflect with TDU nonsense as the source of all that is, was, and will be wrong within our Union.

    I'll say it again, line up 100 Teamsters and ask them what TDU is, and more than 90 would not be able to give you an accurate description.

    Face it, your shtick is broke.




    ~Bbbl~™
     
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  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I'll say it again....


    Line up 100 Teamsters, and 99% couldn't tell you who the IBT General President is.
     
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  3. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I'll take that bet.
     
  4. BakerMayfield2018

    BakerMayfield2018 Fight the power.

    Lie
     
  5. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    You'd probably win but personally, based upon my experience of the General Membership of UPS Teamsters, I wouldn't take that bet.

    Based upon voting turnout most probably wouldn't answer the question if polled.
     
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  6. Ron Carey?
     
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  7. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Careful...unless you want to be called out as a tdu loyalist...
    Sean O’Brien.....
     
  8. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Oz Nelson
     
  9. 2021
     
  10. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    Just because people don't agree with you doesn't make them TDU, it just makes them fed up with how things are going at the top of the IBT.
     
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  11. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    What's the bet ?



    Jimmy Hoffa.... is not the correct answer.

    ;)
     
  12. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Jimmy Hoffa, what? Did they find him? Was he laying low with BD Cooper?
     
  13. Future

    Future Victory Ride

    I am not TDU ... just someone that sees a lot of bad representation
     
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  14. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    It is for sure the correct answer.

    That name is the only reason he ever won a single Teamster election.
     
  15. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    I'd take that bet. I know that 99% of Teamsters don't know who their president is. That's just absurd. But you're definitely right about that voter turnout bit...
     
  16. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    I'd honestly say 90 is an exaggeration after recent events and what with the fact that large locals are electing TDU leadership, but the number is definitely up there.

    That's something I'm wondering about though. When exactly did this TDU faction appear? Or was it always there but so small that it wasn't on the radar?

    And that's something I noticed myself. BUG used to be one of the most informative, rational people on Browncafe (disregard the recent join date, I used to be here way back when as the Turdburglar). And I did notice the back and forth between Bubblehead and BUG, but also saw the mutual respect between them and saw that they agreed on more things than they disagreed on. But BUG didn't even respond to Bubblehead calling him out on this. He just ignored that part.

    BUG is still informative, but at the same time he has this irrational hatred of anyone who calls out the Old Guard leadership on their crap and paints them with the same tired TDU brush, when in reality I haven't seen too many people on Browncafe arguing with BUG and openly declaring themselves to be TDU supporters.

    I know in my local some stewards bash dissidents as "braindead TDU supporters", and I'm sure that that is not an isolated thing. I don't know what changed with BUG, but I can safely say he appears to be a "braindead Old Guard supporter". And neither end of the political spectrum is good to be on.
     
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  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I can respect your opinion.

    But, how can you base that assumption on limited information ?
     
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  18. Future

    Future Victory Ride

    Just a sheeeeet show .... of what workers r feeling right now .... like I said b4 I really don’t have a long horse in this race anymore ... but what young drivers r saying and worried about makes me upset for them
     
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Maybe the name.... carries some weight.


    It's not going to be Fred Z from Local 89.

    3rd lowest voting Local in the country.... when one of his subordinates get's elected

    to the IBT Executive Board.


    That's gotta be embarrassing.



    -Bug-
     
  20. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    That's what you said last time, when you predicted a "landslide" victory for Hoffa over Fred Z....

    How did that end up???

    But I do agree, it won't be Fred Z, because he won't be running for President....but if you wanna make another bet on who wins Secretary Treasurer, I'm in???
    What Local has the highest full time to part time employee ratio???

    I propose yet another bet that Local 89 is also at least the "3rd lowest Local" in regards to that ratio???

    ....in other words, that Local 89 is way above the national average of 65% part time membership, which explains a below average voter turnout.



    ~Bbbl~™
     
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