Vacation Switching

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by ruthiestarz, Jan 27, 2015.

  1. ruthiestarz

    ruthiestarz New Member

    In the past we have been able to change vacation weeks with other drivers, I went to trade with another driver and was told no this round. Anyone know if this is a new policy?
  2. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I switched some vacation this year
  3. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    No means no.
  4. ruthiestarz

    ruthiestarz New Member

    They just told me that we could trade into an open week but no switching with other drivers.
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yeah I think mine was an open week.

    I can see why no switching. They don't want a bunch of back room deals that negate seniority.
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  6. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    How much $ for my prime summer weeks you offering?
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  7. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Going to take more than money to get my weeks.
  8. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Allowing drivers to trade opens up an ugly can of worms.
    Not allowed in my center.
  9. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    One time we had a driver pick certain vacations for another driver so that they could switch later. It did not go over well. Especially once I saw it because it involved a week that I had wanted but was not available when I picked. Yet mysteriously an employee 2 spots below me gets the week I wanted.

    Swapping vacations should never be allowed. You pick whats available when it's your turn. That's it. Maybe one day you'll have the seniority to pick all those weeks you want, but today is not that day.
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  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Drivers who "hold" vacations for other drivers are screwing everyone between them. When this type of information is found out, the driver that found out is usually given free reign to pick any week they want after bids are closed.
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  11. ArcherUTR

    ArcherUTR Active Member

    I'm looking for the week of Thanksgiving, willing to trade mid June and up to 25 bags of sunflower seeds...
  12. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If you were in my center they would have "opened" any week you wanted as "hush payment".
  13. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    I know I'd be :censored2: if a week I wanted was filled up during the vacation pick time (October here) but then later swapped with a driver with less seniority than me. It's even worse when someone picks and then shows up to work. But that hasn't happened here lately. I don't even like it when someone gets sick and moves their vacation to cover that week. I feel like saying "Yeah that's what sick days are for you fool!"
  14. Bottom rung

    Bottom rung Active Member

    Depends who you are here. They'll allow it for the right person. Safety committee/brown noser.
  15. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Having worked in a small center my whole career switching vacations was never a problem. We did it all the time. I don't recall anyone ever having a hissy fit over it.
  16. Pickles

    Pickles Member

    Side question:

    Where you are at, does a "working option week" vacation count towards the max number off per week?

    Here it does for some reason. Which is stupid if you ask me. What what else is stupid is drivers taking prime weeks when they plan on working it.
  17. curtis330ci

    curtis330ci New Member

    i sell mine for $125.00 a week.
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  18. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    The trouble starts with prime summer weeks that lower seniority drivers can't get. Switch with a lower seniority driver and those above start the hissy fitting.

    Really, that week should go in seniority order. If no one wants it, go ahead and trade.
  19. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    One thing that a lot of you forget, bsed on your supplement, is the amount of slots available. It's outlined in the Southern Supplement Art 61 that a certain number of slots must be made available based on the amount of employees, even making more weeks available during prime months.

    Now, one may say that's great, but what the contract fails to address is the amount of vacations each employee has. If your senority list has 75% of employees at 25+ years of service, well obviously the amount of vacation week each employee has is a lot more on average, which the contract doesn't address.

    This is where picking vacations and adhering to the contract on selection is vital. In a center of 130 drivers where the top 80 have 4 weeks plus, this presents a problem.

    Another thing that isn't addressed is the cover driver (pt employee for driver coverage) selection. As a PT employee they should be bidding with their inside selection. Now, obviously, these guys are going to be on the top of the PT senority list, and will pick the prime weeks. As such during the time of the year where they are needed most, they are on vacation, creating a large void to fill.

    Just something for you guys to think about next time you think switching doesn't effect anyone.
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  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yes plus some supplements have the option that everyone picks half their vacations then you go back through the list after everyone has picked.