What would it take?

bbsam

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Specialists, especially plastic surgeons, are at the high end pay scale in the medical field. Yet general practitioners seem to feel they're not paid what they're worth. If they chose to leave, someone from India is there wait to take their place....next man up. For your tit there's always a tat.
yes. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But Fred doesn't have to bring couriers in from India.
 

hypo hanna

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And that is wonderful. A Hard working, reliable, employee. Who over time learned his or her position well enough to produce like that. Try putting "over time I developed almost a sixth sense anticipating issues long before they became a problem" on a resume for a job. Then tell your new potential employer that you stopped producing because you felt you were being treated like crap. I'm just going to do the bare minimum! wahhhhh.
Believe it or not, many companies appreciate an employee who can anticipate problems before they become larger issues.

And why would I tell an interviewer that I stopped being productive because of the way I was treated by a former employer? Really, someone should have told you about the damage that meth will do to your brain.
 

hypo hanna

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Please. You deliver things via automobile. The guy that delivered my pizza last night has the same qualifications as you and gets paid even less. The competition gets paid more because they have a union. If they didn't, they'd likely be making the same bank that you do.
This is fascinating. Maybe you tell me more about the pizza delivery in your area. It sounds a lot differNt then around me.
How often does your driver make 75+ deliveries a day?
I guess he has a few 75 to 150 pound pizzas every now and then. Could you send me a picture of him making that delivery? I would love to see both that massive Pisa and the vehicle he used to deliver it with.
How does he prioritize his 6 to 12 delivery commitments and still deliver those pies hot?

Does he have a lot of extra paperwork when he gets an international pizza?

How does he placard his car when he has a pizza containing hazardous materials?

How does he scan the pizzas and keep them all straight when he has 100 or more pizzas going to the same building? Does he like count individual olives or slices of pepperoni?

When the roads are a sheeted ice, do u tip him extra?

Let me know ok?
 

Serf

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Believe it or not, many companies appreciate an employee who can anticipate problems before they become larger issues.

And why would I tell an interviewer that I stopped being productive because of the way I was treated by a former employer? Really, someone should have told you about the damage that meth will do to your brain.

I am not debating the fact that "many companies appreciate an employee who can anticipate problems before they become larger issues". But if that is your selling/talking point, I'm afraid it's a bit impotent. Besides your self proclaimed power of anticipation, what real world marketable skills do you possess that I can use or actually verify? And no, I would not expect you to reveal to your new future employer that your production went down. Nor would I expect any of your references that you put down to admit you were a slacker after you felt you were mistreated. Also, try and suppress the urge to use juvenile insults.
 

hypo hanna

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I am not debating the fact that "many companies appreciate an employee who can anticipate problems before they become larger issues". But if that is your selling/talking point, I'm afraid it's a bit impotent. Besides your self proclaimed power of anticipation, what real world marketable skills do you possess that I can use or actually verify?
I never claimed it to be my only skill. I have plenty of other skills that are applicable to several fields. Verifiable? That would require the hiring company to do their due diligence with interviews, testing and background checks.
And no, I would not expect you to reveal to your new future employer that your production went down. Nor would I expect any of your references that you put down to admit you were a slacker after you felt you were mistreated. Also, try and suppress the urge to use juvenile insults.
I will try, if you can resist the urge to make inane and assumptive statements about the requirements of an express courier when you have not been one for any length of time.
 

Serf

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I never claimed it to be my only skill. I have plenty of other skills that are applicable to several fields. Verifiable? That would require the hiring company to do their due diligence with interviews, testing and background checks.

I will try, if you can resist the urge to make inane and assumptive statements about the requirements of an express courier when you have not been one for any length of time.

Alright, deal. You have verifiable skills. But you choose to stay at FedEx. And you don't use or cultivate those skills. And I cannot promise my remarks will not be inane or assumptive. But I will try and water them down. Truth indeed, I am not a courier. You see when I was offered the position of Shuttle Driver OR Courier, I realized that the shuttle driver was almost the same pay but with better hours and less headache. Also, I take everything I can get from FedEx. Understand it's just work As it is the best part time job I have seen. If you have reached the point that many people have who are in this FedEx forum, why not make a change?
 

hypo hanna

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Alright, deal. You have verifiable skills. But you choose to stay at FedEx. And you don't use or cultivate those skills. And I cannot promise my remarks will not be inane or assumptive. But I will try and water them down. Truth indeed, I am not a courier. You see when I was offered the position of Shuttle Driver OR Courier, I realized that the shuttle driver was almost the same pay but with better hours and less headache. Also, I take everything I can get from FedEx. Understand it's just work As it is the best part time job I have seen. If you have reached the point that many people have who are in this FedEx forum, why not make a change?

Simple, I'm 50+ years of age with deteriorating joints (mainly as a result of my 30 years driving for fedex), and most companies aren't interested in hiring someone like that no matter how exceptional their skill set. Believe me I have been looking.

I choose not to use the skills I have developed over the years just as fedex chooses to cut my compensation. The two items are now tightly interwoven in my view.
 

Serf

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Simple, I'm 50+ years of age with deteriorating joints (mainly as a result of my 30 years driving for fedex), and most companies aren't interested in hiring someone like that no matter how exceptional their skill set. Believe me I have been looking.

I choose not to use the skills I have developed over the years just as fedex chooses to cut my compensation. The two items are now tightly interwoven in my view.

Read you loud and clear. I'll provide a worthy response this evening, or Sat. morning.
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
And what? In order to be qualified to utilize this forum I have to be a courier, and united in misery?
You really don't have a clue Bud. You can talk all day about how couriers are overpaid and yet you haven't experienced one day of being one. Just as well, your arrogance would make you very unpopular within the ranks.
 

MrFedEx

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Please. You deliver things via automobile. The guy that delivered my pizza last night has the same qualifications as you and gets paid even less. The competition gets paid more because they have a union. If they didn't, they'd likely be making the same bank that you do.

You are truly ignorant regarding doing deliveries. I suggest you walk a mile in our shoes before ever saying something that stupid again. I guarantee you that the pizza guy would fail miserably as either an Express courier or UPS package car driver. He's actually overqualified to be a Ground driver.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Complete broad stroke statement. And totally arbitrary. Are you a subject matter expert on this? So let us speculate. A highly educated surgeon, with a world class skill is paid well. But a general M.D. or physicians assistant who is also well educated is secretly living in fear that a foreign national is coming to take there job? This isn't the 1-800 hotline you call for Dell or Toshiba when your PC has a virus and Rajiv from Mumbai answers. (Not intended to offend anyone)

Halloo!! Please to be meeting you!! I am Apu, and I will be replacing you on Monday as a shuttle driver!! I will drive the van through the computer here in Mumbai via remote control and you shall be replaced. So sorry, but this is the world economy at work. Good luck on finding new employment!! Vishnu Saves!!
 

Serf

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You really don't have a clue Bud. You can talk all day about how couriers are overpaid and yet you haven't experienced one day of being one. Just as well, your arrogance would make you very unpopular within the ranks.

Listen, this may sound comical. My arrogance does not make me unpopular amongst the ranks. In fact it's just the opposite. After most couriers are done crying on my shoulder, we end up talking about options in there immediate future. How to invest there savings, critiquing resumes, immediate annuities, CDL training, etc. They understand the way things were and the way they are going now. They understand that DRA is taking the thinking out of the route. The writing is on the wall. They also aren't offended by any stance I take for or against them because they have in affect been neutered by corporate.
 

Serf

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Halloo!! Please to be meeting you!! I am Apu, and I will be replacing you on Monday as a shuttle driver!! I will drive the van through the computer here in Mumbai via remote control and you shall be replaced. So sorry, but this is the world economy at work. Good luck on finding new employment!! Vishnu Saves!!

LOL I was wondering when this was going to happen. Although I thought it would have been by one of them DRONE thingies that could just fly the damn frieght to the airport! I guess I will just have to find another part time job driving, and continue to build my own private buisness. Before I leave though, I better make sure I roll over that 401k that the purple plantation gave me!
 

Serf

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Simple, I'm 50+ years of age with deteriorating joints (mainly as a result of my 30 years driving for fedex), and most companies aren't interested in hiring someone like that no matter how exceptional their skill set. Believe me I have been looking.

I choose not to use the skills I have developed over the years just as fedex chooses to cut my compensation. The two items are now tightly interwoven in my view.

My stance is still the same. But now that you have revealed that you are an older gentlemen and a career driver. I would say having known a few with that many years. There houses are paid off, there 401k's are fat, there traditional pensions on point, and there new PPA's being prepared to be rolled over into immediate annuities to generate more monthly lifetime income. Some stock options. It is my hope that you have been disciplined enough to do some of these things as well.
The work you perform is an honorable thing. Make no mistake about it. You came in as a young man and when you do something long enough it becomes part of you. But follow me if you will. Your career has become almost like a Shakespearean tragedy. Early on brimming with love, pride, and passion. To have eroded right in front of you until it's current state present day. You are smart enough to recognize it, but are helpless to stop it or change it.
In my opinion the country is already in a pinch. All manufacturing and service jobs are outsourced or cut. Make the prospects lousy for anyone that hopes to have some semblance of the "American Dream". Pride for the worker. Loyalty to the company. It's gone to some extent.
Being in the mid 50's with joint discomfort is rough. And your right, companies aren't chomping at the bit to hire someone like that. The couriers we have retire recently after 25 and 30 years got Fedex to pay for a CDL for them about 18 months before they knew they were going to hang it up. Than they retired, and found work driving for private trucking companies. No touch on the freight. Just one avenue of approach.
 

hypo hanna

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My stance is still the same. But now that you have revealed that you are an older gentlemen and a career driver. I would say having known a few with that many years. There houses are paid off, there 401k's are fat, there traditional pensions on point, and there new PPA's being prepared to be rolled over into immediate annuities to generate more monthly lifetime income. Some stock options. It is my hope that you have been disciplined enough to do some of these things as well.
The work you perform is an honorable thing. Make no mistake about it. You came in as a young man and when you do something long enough it becomes part of you. But follow me if you will. Your career has become almost like a Shakespearean tragedy. Early on brimming with love, pride, and passion. To have eroded right in front of you until it's current state present day. You are smart enough to recognize it, but are helpless to stop it or change it.
In my opinion the country is already in a pinch. All manufacturing and service jobs are outsourced or cut. Make the prospects lousy for anyone that hopes to have some semblance of the "American Dream". Pride for the worker. Loyalty to the company. It's gone to some extent.
Being in the mid 50's with joint discomfort is rough. And your right, companies aren't chomping at the bit to hire someone like that. The couriers we have retire recently after 25 and 30 years got Fedex to pay for a CDL for them about 18 months before they knew they were going to hang it up. Than they retired, and found work driving for private trucking companies. No touch on the freight. Just one avenue of approach.
First off, I'm a woman.

Secondly my house is not yet paid off. My pension was raided by fedex in 96' and converted into a portable 401K that assuming the stock market does well will still be worth a 3rd less then if they hadleft it alone. I do have independent investments but even with all of that, retirement in the form i had hoped for has become a pipe dream. I will be working until the day i die. First I must get the kids through college. We will probably sell the house, downsize and if its really bad, move out of the country.
A Shakespearean tragedy makes it all sound way more romantic then it really is.
 
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Dex01

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First off, I'm a woman.

Secondly my house is not yet paid off. My pension was raided by fedex in 96' and converted into a portable 401K that assuming the stock market does well will still be worth a 3rd less then if they hadleft it alone. I do have independent investments but even with all of that, retirement in the form i had hoped for has become a pipe dream. I will be working until the day i die. First I must get the kids through college. We will probably sell the house, downsize and if its really bad, move out of the country.
A Shakespearean tragedy makes it all sound way more romantic then it really is.
What happened in 96'? That was before my time. I was under the impression the great benefits purge did not start until the 2000s.
 

hypo hanna

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What happened in 96'? That was before my time. I was under the impression the great benefits purge did not start until the 2000s.
Around that time fedex like many other corporations realized their pensions were overfunded. This was a big chunk of money that they legally couldn't touch but wanted badly. With a few well placed campaign donations, (bribes) of our elected officials, they got the pension rules changed. The end result was they were able to convert our pensions into 401K's, aka "portable pensions", and the billions left over was theirs free and clear. Now they had to slip this all past the employees without them getting wise and starting a mutiny. They cranked up their PR machines and said the pensions were underfunded (proved with some accounting tricks), and told us all how its better that we manage our own accounts as we are way smarter then professional pension managers.
Read the book "Retirement Heist" by Ellen Schultz for all of the gory details.
 
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