When is start time tomorrow?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by RTCD, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I believe it’s in our local rider. I know that’s what we’ve been told by stewards and BA for years.

    It essentially means they can’t change it the day before.
     
  2. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Now I'm really confused....

    Isn't "24 hours notice" pretty much the same as "the day before"???

    ....and @BigUnionGuy wouldn't that be a lessor condition contained in a forward agreement, making it an Article 2 violation of the National Master?
     
  3. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Sorry yes if they want to change the start time later they could. If it’s earlier it’s under 24 hours.

    Only time i have seen them do it is weather emergencies.
     
  4. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    ....and that's crap.
     
  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yeah I mean it is certainly not ideal but it’s not something any center I’ve been in has really abused hard either.


    Nothing like what the op is talking about.
     
  6. They have to tell us by the end of our shift if our start time is different the following day
     
  7. Our center works like this...
    Start time... changes right up to 15 minutes before hand. Sometimes they tell you the time but then start the belts 15 minutes beforehand.
    Break Time.... varies every day so you can never get ready for it. They want you to do that extra 1 minute of work you are in the middle of so you actually only get a 9 minute break.
    Punch Out... Whenever... nobody cares..
     
  8. Sissy Brown Short Shorts

    Sissy Brown Short Shorts Active Member

    Mine this morning was... “uhhh mmm I think it’s.... uh I can’t find the paper.... uhhh 8:30ish maybe?” I was fifteen minutes early and missed my morning poop rushing out of the house.
     
  9. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    My phone is very unreliable, never seems to get calls or texts from work!

    Don't be an idiot. Start at the effective time according to your contract, not earlier, not later, let them fix their own crap.
    Take all breaks, lunches. I am not a fan of people who take lunch at the worst possible moment but don't wait until the end of the day.
     
  10. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    Western:
    -Start time is posted the prior friday for the next week
    -FT, with 24 hours notice, can have start time adjusted with additional overtime for the difference.
    -PT cannot be adjusted except in "emergency situations"
     
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  11. lolbr

    lolbr Active Member

    Just make sure they don't pay you 8 hours straight time after that overtime. If you come in 45 minutes early to help, you should not have more than 7 hours 15 minutes of straight time for the day.
     
  12. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    That can happen but most of the time you also have OT at the end of the day so it doesn't end up making any difference.
     
  13. lolbr

    lolbr Active Member

    That's my point. Overtime is time worked in excess of 8 hours in a day. Early start is also overtime. So if you work a 10 hour day (with a 45 minute early start), you should still only have 7 hours and 15 minutes of straight time for the day.
     
  14. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    No. You get 45 minutes of OT in the morning, then after your scheduled start time you get 8 hours of straight pay, then you start getting more OT. Your 10 hour day would still be 2 hours OT and 8 hours straight time pay.

    It does make a difference if you have a light dispatch. Which doesn't usually happen.
     
  15. RTCD

    RTCD Member

    ** Update ** Start time was 8:30.

    Southern supplement.

    Start time tomorrow is 9:10; Wed, Thu, Fri unknown (prob 9:10?).
     
  16. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    Why would anyone here know YOUR start time?
     
  17. RTCD

    RTCD Member

    I was just posting about not being given a start time and how ours fluctuate from day to day. No big deal really, just annoying having to come in earlier in case the time gets bumped up.
     
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Isn't "autonomy" great???
     
  19. lolbr

    lolbr Active Member

    My mistake, I misremembered where I read it. It's a Central Supplement thing. Not sure if it's in other supplements.
     
  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I disagree.

    OT is paid after 8 hours of work. The Amount you're paid during the 8 hours does not effect that.