Who will BUSH Pardon?

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good god man Obama with ex clintonites may very well legalize every known drug. Bush is simply ahead of the game.

Looks like the post you responded to was TOS commenting on drug dealers being pardoned.

Its an interesting reference. By pointing out that Bush pardoned drug dealers you can insinuate something about the character of Bush.

yet as far as I know there are no generic crimes in that you don't generally get committed to jail just because or for no particular reason......:)

DUH!:dead:
 

tieguy

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I heard these were OBAMAS former(?) drug dealers, and Obama asked PRESIDENT Bush to pardon them.


Remember these pardons by Clinton?

FALN Commutation of 1999
On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States mostly in New York City and Chicago, convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations.[4] None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition. Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for "6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials." All of the 16 had served 19 years or longer in prison, which was a longer sentence than such crimes typically received, according to the White House.[5] Clinton offered clemency, on condition that the prisoners renounce violence, at the appeal of 10 Nobel Peace Prize laureates, President Jimmy Carter, the cardinal of New York, and the archbishop of Puerto Rico. The commutation was opposed by U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police,[6] members of Congress. Hillary Clinton, then campaigning for her first term in the Senate, initially supported the commutation,[7] but later withdrew her support when the prisoners had refused to renounce violence more than three weeks after clemency was offered.[8] Congress condemned the action, with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House.[9][10] The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying.[11] President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group.


bushs pardons are actually very mild compared to Clintons. Only an idiot would try to make anything of Bushs pardons when Clintons were so much more controversial. I wonder if we have any idiots out there.
 

over9five

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According to TOS, it is horrible for a President to pardon drug dealers....


...but it is great for a cocaine snorter/pothead to BE President!!!!
 

The Other Side

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According to TOS, it is horrible for a President to pardon drug dealers....


...but it is great for a cocaine snorter/pothead to BE President!!!!

AKA: George W. Bush? Thanks for reminding us.:dead:

How team Bush took an airbrush
to the Chosen One’s misdeeds



The public swallowed a story of the wayward president’s son who cleaned up his act to take his place in the White House. Kitty Kelley exposes what really lurks in George W Bush’s past
On November 6, 1997, the exclusive club of America’s current and former presidents and first ladies gathered at a college campus in Texas for a celebration. President and Mrs Clinton arrived on Air Force One to join President and Mrs Ford, President and Mrs Carter, Nancy Reagan and Lady Bird Johnson.
They were there to honour President George Bush, who had raised $83m to build his presidential library at Texas A&M University.
His eldest son, George W Bush, governor of Texas, welcomed the 20,000 guests. With a few words, W smashed the bonhomie of the occasion: “I’m here to praise my father as a man who entered the political arena and left with his integrity intact . . . A war hero, a loving husband . . . and a president who brought dignity and character and honour to the White House.”
Spoken at the height of Clinton’s personal scandal in front of a predominantly Republican crowd, the assault on the current president’s integrity was not lost on anyone.
The Bush family had never accepted Clinton as a worthy successor, and they delighted in his unfolding scandal. They e-mailed one another ribald jokes about Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones’s sexual harassment suit against Clinton.
When it was reported that Jones claimed she could identify a “distinguishing characteristic” of Clinton’s anatomy, George Sr did not rest until he discovered what she was talking about. He then e-mailed his sons and friends: “His Johnson curves to the left.”
The family was looking towards its restoration to power through the presidential candidacy of George W. His mother, Barbara Bush, referred to him as “the Chosen One”. There was a problem, however. After eight years of Clinton, the American public “want to elect a statue”, as Oklahoma’s Republican governor Frank Keating put it. “They want a hero, an unblemished and untarnished guy in the White House.”
Karl Rove, the political adviser with the task of shaping W’s image, knew he had to present his candidate as the anti-Clinton: fresh (no drugs, no alcoholism), religious (acceptable to evangelicals) and faithful to his wife (majority of voters: women).
Fanning out across the country, Rove and the Bush team began to tidy up the governor’s past. Rove wanted no potentially devastating revelations to emerge that might portray W and Laura, his wife, as anything but an ideal and idealised couple. But to present W as pure and pristine was hypocritical and untrue.
George W Bush wasn’t Bill Clinton, certainly not in terms of sexual excess. But Clinton is not the standard to which he should be held. He must be compared with his own declarations on morality and his own carefully crafted public image — the image that the entire Bush family has cultivated for so long.
THE first hurdle facing the tidy-up team was to deal with W’s past drug use. As governor of Texas, he took a hard line on drugs. He supported increased penalties for possession and signed legislation mandating jail time for people caught with less than a single gram of cocaine.
Yet, as the claims of Sharon Bush, his sister-in-law, show, he could have been subject to jail time himself had he been caught “doing coke” with his brother Marvin at Camp David during his father’s presidency.
In the midst of an unfriendly divorce from Neil, another of the Bush brothers, Sharon told me last year: “He and Marvin did coke at Camp David when their father was president and not just once, either.”
As governor, George W had been very careful not to lie about doing illegal drugs himself, because he knew there were too many people who could testify to the truth. “When I was young and irresponsible,” he would say, “I was young and irresponsible.”
So what was his drugs record? When they were young, both he and Laura used to go down to the island of Tortola in the British Virgin Islands where they attended and enjoyed heavy pot-smoking parties. Smoking pot was hardly a sin but it did not mesh with the strait-laced image the Bushes were now presenting to the voters.
Then there were the allegations about cocaine. When W was at Yale in the mid-1960s, it was the most popular drug on campus. One contemporary, who insists on remaining anonymous, admitted years later to selling cocaine to W at the university.
Another man who was at Yale’s graduate school recalled “doing coke” with George, but he would not allow his recollections to be used on the record. This was not simply through fear of retribution. He said he did not feel right about “blowing George’s cover because I was doing the same thing”. A confirmed Democrat, he also said that although he could not stand George’s Republican politics, he liked him as a person. Alcohol, the more familiar thread in W’s life story, started at Andover, the exclusive school W attended.
 

tieguy

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looks like clinton didn't believe in people serving time. 456 people pardoned by him.
heres a partial list:
thanks to wikopedia
Pardons

  1. Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[3]
  2. Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
  3. Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
  4. Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
  5. William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
  6. Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
  7. Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
  8. Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
  9. Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
  10. Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
  11. Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
  12. David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
  13. William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
  14. Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
  15. Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
  16. George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
  17. Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
  18. Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
  19. David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
  20. Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
  21. John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
  22. Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
  23. Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote)
  24. Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration)
  25. Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine)
  26. Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud)
  27. Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud)
  28. Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)
  29. Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
  30. Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3]
  31. Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options)
  32. David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government)
  33. Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
  34. John friend. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement)
  35. Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana)
  36. Richard Anthony De Labio (Mail fraud)
  37. John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
  38. Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent)
  39. Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
  40. Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements)
  41. Larry Lee Duncan
  42. Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
  43. Robert Clinton Fain
  44. Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
  45. Alvarez Ferrouillet
  46. Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
  47. William Dennis Fugazy
  48. Lloyd Reid George
  49. Louis Goldstein
  50. Rubye Lee Gordon
  51. Pincus Green
  52. Robert Ivey Hamner
  53. Samuel Price Handley
  54. Woodie Randolph Handley
  55. Jay Houston Harmon
  56. Rick Hendrick
  57. John Hummingson
  58. David S. Herdlinger
  59. Debi Rae Huckleberry
  60. Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
  61. Donald Ray James
  62. Stanley Pruet Jobe
  63. Ruben H. Johnson
  64. Linda Jones
  65. James Howard Lake
  66. June Louise Lewis
  67. Salim Bonnor Lewis
  68. John Leighton Lodwick
  69. Hildebrando Lopez
  70. Jose Julio Luaces
  71. James Timothy Maness
  72. James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
  73. John Robert Martin
  74. Frank Ayala Martinez
  75. Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
  76. John Francis McCormick
  77. Susan H. McDougal
  78. Howard Mechanic
  79. Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
  80. Samuel Loring Morison
  81. Charles Wilfred Morgan III
  82. Richard Anthony Nazzaro
  83. Charlene Ann Nosenko
  84. Vernon Raymond Obermeier
  85. Miguelina Ogalde
  86. David C. Owen
  87. Robert W. Palmer
  88. Kelli Anne Perhosky
  89. Richard H. Pezzopane
  90. Orville Rex Phillips
  91. Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
  92. James G. Powell
  93. Norman Lyle Prouse
  94. Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[4]
  95. Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
  96. Charles D. Ravenel
  97. William Clyde Ray
  98. Alfredo Luna Regalado
  99. Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
  100. Marc Rich
  101. Howard Winfield Riddle
  102. Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4]
  103. Samuel Lee Robbins
  104. Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
  105. Michael James Rogers
  106. Anna Louise Ross
  107. Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
  108. Gerald Glen Rust
  109. Jerri Ann Rust
  110. Bettye June Rutherford
  111. Gregory Lee Sands
  112. Adolph Schwimmer
  113. Albert A. Seretti Jr.
  114. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
  115. Dennis Joseph Smith
  116. Gerald Owen Smith
  117. Stephen A. Smith
  118. Jimmie Lee Speake
  119. Charles Bernard Stewart
  120. Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
  121. Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
  122. Richard Lee Tannehill
  123. Nicholas C. Tenaglia
  124. Gary Allen Thomas
  125. Larry Weldon Todd
  126. Olga C. Trevino
  127. Ignatious Vamvouklis
  128. Patricia A. Van De Weerd
  129. Christopher V. Wade
  130. Bill Wayne Warmath
  131. Jack Kenneth Watson
  132. Donna Lynn Webb
  133. Donald William Wells
  134. Robert H. Wendt
  135. Jack L. Williams
  136. Kavin Arthur Williams
  137. Robert Michael Williams
  138. Jimmie Lee Wilson
  139. Thelma Louise Wingate
  140. Mitchell Couey Wood
  141. Warren Stannard Wood
  142. Dewey Worthey
  143. Rick Allen Yale
  144. Joseph A. Yasak
  145. William Stanley Yingling
  146. Phillip David Young
  147. Keith Sanders
  148. Darren Muci
  149. John Scott (not a full pardon)
 
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