I've never felt threatened by them. I don't know many management people that are really bothered by them. I think its just another communication channel for those that need a union to engage in basic dialogue.[/QUOTE]
Let me explain this sentence in truck driver terms for everyone that didnt understand Tie. When people get sick of being walked over and decide to stand up for themselves against contract violating management a grievance is the perfect way to go. How many times as a steward have we heard the argument for not discussing the problem first? Too many!
Its simple if a driver does not want lets say 9.5 either get him off the road under 9.5 or pay him triple time, why must we file a grievance in order to get whats spelled out in the contract?
I filed a grievance and have decided to stop talking and take it to the panel. My grievance is about "respect and dignity" issues.
What I don't understand is why is managment so scared about grievances? What happens to them when you win?
Money is all they care about.
Quite frankly, your grievances about "respect and dignity issues" will at best win you the following award.
"Company is instructed to comply with Article 37".
You want respect and dignity through the grievance process, find a way to cost them some money.
Otherwise your spinning your wheels.
I filed a grievance and have decided to stop talking and take it to the panel. My grievance is about "respect and dignity" issues.
What I don't understand is why is managment so scared about grievances? What happens to them when you win?
Not true. Sometimes the truly serious complaints get mixed in with the serious complaining. This does formalize it and make it important to management. I have settled many from my desk with the steward, the grievant, a meeting of the minds, and a handshake.
It's just this simple.
They fear the ones that could cost the company money.
Money is all they care about.
Quite frankly, your grievances about "respect and dignity issues" will at best win you the following award.
"Company is instructed to comply with Article 37".
You want respect and dignity through the grievance process, find a way to cost them some money.
Otherwise your spinning your wheels.
Reread the OP.He states he is past talking and ready to go to the panel.He no longer believes the idle chatter and empty promises.The grievance procedure provides for the talking phase prior to filing.Your statement shows the inherent problem.Managements complete disregard for dealing with the issues until, and only if they are forced to
Bubblehead is right,a grievance that is not monetary will be won so fast your head will spin.BUt nothing comes of it you will come in the next day and the same thing will happen again.One thing i dont understand is you go talk to a stewart about an issue and he says file on it,your next question might be wont they do this or do that to me for it,and he says they cant do that.Now he knows they will be on you like stink on smile* but tells you they wont this is not right for a newer person who does not know.It's just this simple.
They fear the ones that could cost the company money.
Money is all they care about.
Quite frankly, your grievances about "respect and dignity issues" will at best win you the following award.
"Company is instructed to comply with Article 37".
You want respect and dignity through the grievance process, find a way to cost them some money.
Otherwise your spinning your wheels.
Bubblehead is right,a grievance that is not monetary will be won so fast your head will spin.BUt nothing comes of it you will come in the next day and the same thing will happen again.One thing i dont understand is you go talk to a stewart about an issue and he says file on it,your next question might be wont they do this or do that to me for it,and he says they cant do that.Now he knows they will be on you like stink on smile* but tells you they wont this is not right for a newer person who does not know.
He says stop talking you say past talking...you are probably right; but I disagree with your assertion that management has a complete disregard for dealing with issues until forced to. Obviously we can do better, but we deal with many issues daily. You may not know about them, and you shouldn't. How many times does a person have an issue, come to management, get it fixed quickly and then go tell everyone? Probably not many times. Point being, we are not forced to deal with many issues, yet we do. We are supposed to. But to answer the original question; management probably feels like they failed when it cannot be resolved locally OR they do not want their dirty laundry exposed. IMHO
Out of a couple of hundred not one paid? come on.....I've had a couple hundred filed against me. Never had one paid. The funny part is that there are always a couple people that just do it to annoy you, but they are more annoying to the union.
I've never felt threatened by them. I don't know many management people that are really bothered by them. I think its just another communication channel for those that need a union to engage in basic dialogue.
Out of a couple of hundred not one paid? come on.....
Just like the warning letters...I've never felt threatened by them. I don't know many management people that are really bothered by them. I think its just another communication channel for those that need a union to engage in basic dialogue.