Johney
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UPS has continued to pay drivers more and continue to make record profits I don't see that changing.
Will there be a national strike at UPS?
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Trucker Clock
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Wrong.
Wrong. They are going to "try."
Wrong.
You must be new. They have paid us more without major concessions for the past umteen contracts.
Wrong.
Leave the negotiations to the big boys. You obviously have no idea how they work.
Your logic is flawed. No surprise there.
Wrong.
Apparently, you don't understand basic economics. Stick to delivering brown boxes.
Past behavior is a useful marker for future behavior. You just need to look to the past contracts.
PT Car Washer
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While a majority of UPS Union members are starting at minimum wages.
Trucker Clock
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They have always traded off part time wage increases for larger full time wage increases because part timers never voted and a part time job was only temporary or just a stepping stone to going full time.
You are an anomaly. There are hardly any lifer part timers. Most just work temporarily part time to supplement another job or wait until their seniority allows them to go full time or are just here for the insurance.
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Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
That is some hilariously bad “logic”
No not really.
PT Car Washer
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Not always. Originally PT were paid the same as FT to encourage more FT jobs.
beentheredonethat
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If the teamsters strike, which may happen, then I see Carol preparing to do whatever she can and however she can to make this the last time the teamsters strike UPS. I see her going full forward into trying to get the majority of drivers to cross the line and hire outside workers. I do think she wants to have a fair negotiation and increase pay for PTers. However, if UPS is struck to "stick it to them man". I see her sticking it back way harder. While the teamsters striking UPS will hurt UPS, without the dues and initiation fees and Health benefit money and Pension money. The teamsters will go broke.
Johney
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Maybe if they took the time to vote
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
No really it is. Company profits are up 100+% same with dividend payouts. Raise prices by 6% a year like clockwork. But employees are getting 2% raises and you think any more will break the company lol
Sorry man it’s been the same song and dance for 20+ years. Yet guess what they take in record profits year after year.
PT Car Washer
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Like the 22.4 delivery drivers voted? Two tier wages with no OT protection.
Trucker Clock
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There were no 22.4 drivers to vote on the contract.
There are 200K part timers to vote on the contract.
PT Car Washer
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How many worked at UPS last contract to vote. PT has become a revolving door. Just like the company and the Union hope the delivery driver classification will become.
Trucker Clock
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A helluva lot more than 22.4's worked to vote.
PT Car Washer
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And many of the PT dues paying Union members did vote.
Just because it's been a certain way since you've been a driver doesn't mean it's always going to stay that way. I hope I'm wrong though.
I understand what you are saying. But the company doesn't care about giving us drivers what we want. They will do everything they can going forward to make the driving jobs like Amazon's... crappy wages for full-timers and more PVD's. UNLESS the Union can force the company to give us what we want.
Thebrownblob
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Interesting take. I thought everyone believed every contract we’ve had is concessionary and we lost everything for the last 20 some odd years?
I wouldn't say that.
Johney
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SMH
Exactly. Part timers could crush a contract if they all got together and voted.
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