UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
The board locks up? That's a new one...
He is talking about California--the DIAD does lock up during their contractual lunch time period.
The board locks up? That's a new one...
I always have to laugh when the lunch thing comes up. Personally, I never had a problem taking personal time that I wasn't getting paid for. As I've said in the past....lunch was the highlight of my day.
Upstate.......what works for you is great. But.....when the day comes that they too, hold you to the letter of the contract...I hope you get a "heads up". Lunch breaks or rest periods (and their time-frames) are sometimes mandated by federal or state law. It's one thing to manipulate a company/union contractual policy. It's quite another when it is law. I wish no one ill-will.....but I see the lunch period and its' contractual time-frame just as important (if not more so) as any "method" and should be treated as such.
I came to look at breaks to be a safety thing more than anything. When you realize that...it becomes a lot easier to adhere to those rules/laws. After all, safety (both personal and others) should be the number one priority regardless of your occupation.
The board locks up? That's a new one...
Very true..Actually I would consider it more important than any method, Obviously if its important enough to be listed specifically in the contract!!
I just assumed that everyones board was locked up at lunch time, is this not true? In california, oregon and washington it is.
I don't read what TOS has to say very often but this post caught my eye. TOS is dead on with this. Any driver that has been around for any length of time knows what the cardinal sins are, knows what the rules are. You can 'spin' the reason for stop completing while at lunch any way you want to but the fact remains, this is a dishonest act. Proven dishonesty deserves fair discipline according to procedures. Repeated proven dishonesty and you will never get your job back.
Everyone here (BC) knows that there is no standardization of rules across the country. We talk about it everyday. It is what it is. You do what your center requires if you want to keep your job. Here, I can take my lunch when ever. If I was somewhere else I would follow the rules in accordance to that center. You do what is required of you, where ever you are. That is the basic fact.
I don't read what TOS has to say very often but this post caught my eye. TOS is dead on with this. Any driver that has been around for any length of time knows what the cardinal sins are, knows what the rules are. You can 'spin' the reason for stop completing while at lunch any way you want to but the fact remains, this is a dishonest act. Proven dishonesty deserves fair discipline according to procedures. Repeated proven dishonesty and you will never get your job back.
Everyone here (BC) knows that there is no standardization of rules across the country. We talk about it everyday. It is what it is. You do what your center requires if you want to keep your job. Here, I can take my lunch when ever. If I was somewhere else I would follow the rules in accordance to that center. You do what is required of you, where ever you are. That is the basic fact.
Omega, so you are saying I should not be sitting at home right now on lunch? 1545/1630
I just assumed that everyones board was locked up at lunch time, is this not true? In california, oregon and washington it is.
If its consistent with your contract then why not. If it is outside your contracts allowable window then no, you shouldn't be. From your earlier posts you said that it was outside.
I think that is only in states where state law says you must start your lunch by a specified time. Drivers can't follow directions therefore ups had to lock out the board in those states.
What do you think is the bigger problem though? UPS/Teamsters agreeing to contractual language that says lunch between the 4th and 5th hour. Or, letting us act like the adults that we are and take my lunch when I choose to. I happen to take mine at my house at the end of the day. I have done it for years and it is common knowledge that I do so. The problem, as I see it, is that management isn't consistent with the discipline for those they choose to punish. You can't allow some drivers to do it and then hassle the others. If I was told to take my lunch per the contract by my boss then I would. Why make a big deal of a non-issue though?
Years ago, I was involved with the testing of our EAM program in Boston. A couple of guys from Chicago were being shuttled around , doing a random test.I was also told, when I first started 20 years ago, that New England is one of the few areas that can wear their uniforms to/from work. I was told you have to change at the centers in other parts of the country. Oh well...
When I first start 21 yrs ago we changed at the bldg. That was then relaxed to allowing us to wear our shirts but having to change in to pants at the bldg. We are now allowed to come to work in uniform.
We have 3 rooms (small) of lockers in our center and I think maybe 1 or 2 drivers actually use them. We aren't provided a cleaning service either although I was told at one time we once were...