UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Not to sound crass but I don't run my area to please my cover driver.
I have no problem with people taking lunch outside of the contractual time EXCEPT.....
If a cover driver does your route and takes his lunch when he is supposed to, does that piss off customers who now get their deliveries an hour later?
Does your cover driver who takes his lunch when he is supposed to now get beaten by management for being that hour behind?
If so, you guys are doing the wrong thing.
No. That's first I heard of it. Also, I just recently learned about 'bonus drivers'. We don't have them up here either. I was also told, when I first started 20 years ago, that New England is one of the few areas that can wear their uniforms to/from work. I was told you have to change at the centers in other parts of the country. Oh well...
I think that is only in states where state law says you must start your lunch by a specified time. Drivers can't follow directions therefore ups had to lock out the board in those states.
Our boards will not lock up either if we don't punch it in right away. But you cannot enter your lunch that you took at 1:30 PM at 5:00 PM. If you try, the board will tell you, "Lunch must be started after last completed stop." You will also be in office next day.Problem w/ the lockout feature is that it stops nothing. There are still ways around it. The board doesnt even lockout unless you put it on lockout. So what I wonder is how does it help these drivers that cant follow directions as you call them?
Taking late lunches is profitable for UPS and has a negative effect on your health.What do you think is the bigger problem though? UPS/Teamsters agreeing to contractual language that says lunch between the 4th and 5th hour. Or, letting us act like the adults that we are and take my lunch when I choose to. I happen to take mine at my house at the end of the day. I have done it for years and it is common knowledge that I do so. The problem, as I see it, is that management isn't consistent with the discipline for those they choose to punish. You can't allow some drivers to do it and then hassle the others. If I was told to take my lunch per the contract by my boss then I would. Why make a big deal of a non-issue though?
Taking late lunches is profitable for UPS and has a negative effect on your health.
UPS can get more done before end of day (say 5:00 PM for commercial) with less people.
Working all day without stopping just isn't good for, do I need to spell it out for you. Areas with better representation had this language (when to take lunch) inserted into the contract to protect them.
If everyone took their breaks in the middle of the day, UPS would have to get more brown shirts on the road = more drivers more jobs to cover all that work that is not being accomplished while drivers are resting their bones and eating lunch.
It's the people that, for their own selfish reasons like taking a lunch at home after the kids come home from school, end up screwing the rest of us.
Taking late lunches is profitable for UPS and has a negative effect on your health.
UPS can get more done before end of day (say 5:00 PM for commercial) with less people.
Working all day without stopping just isn't good for, do I need to spell it out for you. Areas with better representation had this language (when to take lunch) inserted into the contract to protect them.
If everyone took their breaks in the middle of the day, UPS would have to get more brown shirts on the road = more drivers more jobs to cover all that work that is not being accomplished while drivers are resting their bones and eating lunch.
It's the people that, for their own selfish reasons like taking a lunch at home after the kids come home from school, end up screwing the rest of us.
You do what works for you, I will continue to do what works for me, but thanks for the "advice".
You do what works for you, I will continue to do what works for me, but thanks for the "advice".
Amen, brother...
I took my lunch today from 1:09 to 1:39 and puched out at 6:15. If I would have taken it from 5:00 to 5:30 I would have punched out at 6:15. I really don't see where it matters when you take your lunch as long as it works for you, your customers and your mgmnt. team. I've been on my route for 17 years and never asked a cover driver when or if he took lunch. By the way, the lunch period in our supplement is between the 3rd and 6th hour.
So all you dinner takers enjoy it while you can and I really dont care when you take yours as long as you dont screw mine.