By The Book
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Ok...after we do it your way and after that you go over.....please explain what those consequences are. Sounds like a gripe to me.
By The Book
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Tell me what I missed
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
That's what your paying the fat cats in Washington D.C. to negotiate the consequences
Your a little slow on the uptake aren't ya. It's ok
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
He's not complaining that the list exists. He's saying you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get on it.
Over70irregs
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If I'm not mistaken the union allowed the change in 9.5 language before the last contract was even up. If I'm mistaken let me know. I knew about the change even before the shop stewards did.
BUCN85
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That's pretty good info. Because I know next week I'll be over 9.5 probly everyday. What if thier "numbers" show they dispatched a 9.5. But u run .50 over
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Hours worked. Has zip to do with what their dispatch says
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
On what?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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On what?
By The Book
Well-Known Member
Just like the 9.5 list is challenging, and BS to some, Orion is a bunch of BS to some.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Not when you know how to use it to your advantage.
By The Book
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If you're on the list, now your center team will manage your hours. You could work 2 over 9.5 days Monday and Tuesday, then they may instruct you to be under the other 3 days. If you comply you will be under the 3 days if you don't they can get you for failure to follow instructions. If you go over 9.5 after they've instructed you to be under, getting paid on a grievance won't go so well,IMO. Every center handles the 9.5 list differently. You don't get to choose the days they dispatch you over, and it will vary.
By The Book
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That's why I said to "some". You are a very skilled driver with a lot of area knowledge and experience. My apologies.....I should have said except @UpstateNYUPSer.
By The Book
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I don't see the 9.5 list as hoops you have to jump through.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I had a cover driver who asked me how I dealt with the pickups on the run, which are nowhere near the order they need to be in. I told him to look at the time of the pickup rather than the order in which they are listed. Pickups do not factor in to our Orion trace (yet).
By The Book
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I think this is accurate. In our local they're saying you need to qualify to be on the 9.5 list for each route your on, if your a cover driver.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
You should just be able to say put me on the list until farther notice. Instead they basically get a week free to violate or 2 days a week an unlimited amount.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Your local sucks then.
There is no wording in the national saying 9.5 is route specific. I'm a cover driver and I'm covered on any route they put me on.
By The Book
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I get what your saying....until further notice, however trying to have a verbal agreement and the ability to prove something when it comes time to file a grievance is lacking.
