Libertarians Are Such A Dangerous Lot!

bbsam

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Staff member
I never said they didn’t. I bitch about corporations like FedEx who instead of providing health coverage with employment preach “investing” in the American workforce, meaning subsidize our low wages and employment packages with working class tax dollars.
But your focus is on the “dumbasses in the hood”.

So in your honest opinion, which group rapes the Treasury the hardest?
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Interesting read. I really liked a couple of the comments that followed because they are the question I always pose: How do we get there from here?

But the author unwittingly answered this. He calls libertarian the new middle. Its just not so. The middle is already occupied by reasonable Republicans and pragmatic Democrats. They've failed miserably over the past two decades to hold sway but the same forces that have divided congressional districts to favor one party or another will chew up and spit out a third party. I hope in time the left of the Republican party and right of the Democratic party will ignore their fringes and govern effectively.

The Libertarian Party has never polled above 7-8%. Ron Paul did the best ever of any of their candidates and all he did was help split the GOP vote.

Libertarianism sounds good, but it would require a utopian planet to work as designed. You know, where everyone did their own thing and only paid for the services they wanted from government. Basically, everyone would need to be in agreement, which could never happen.

We need roads, prisons, subsidized public transportation and many other services that would be "optional" to a true Libertarian. Prostitution and all drugs would be legalized and the magical "free market" would be the deciding factor and make everything thrive.

Police and fire services would be optional, like insurance, because everyone is left to their own devices. If your house catches on fire and you haven't opted-in to the fire services, your home burns to the ground. Free choice, free market. "Perfection".

Again, since there is no such thing as a free market except in theory, the utopian state of being that could never possibly exist that is required in order for it to work. It's easy to be a Libertarian and armchair quarterback "solutions" that make zero sense in the real world. Libertarianism only works on the hypothetical level.

I respect one Libertarian...Penn Gillette. A great entertainer and very smart, but not when it comes to viable solutions.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The Libertarian Party has never polled above 7-8%. Ron Paul did the best ever of any of their candidates and all he did was help split the GOP vote.

Libertarianism sounds good, but it would require a utopian planet to work as designed. You know, where everyone did their own thing and only paid for the services they wanted from government. Basically, everyone would need to be in agreement, which could never happen.

We need roads, prisons, subsidized public transportation and many other services that would be "optional" to a true Libertarian. Prostitution and all drugs would be legalized and the magical "free market" would be the deciding factor and make everything thrive.

Police and fire services would be optional, like insurance, because everyone is left to their own devices. If your house catches on fire and you haven't opted-in to the fire services, your home burns to the ground. Free choice, free market. "Perfection".

Again, since there is no such thing as a free market except in theory, the utopian state of being that could never possibly exist that is required in order for it to work. It's easy to be a Libertarian and armchair quarterback "solutions" that make zero sense in the real world. Libertarianism only works on the hypothetical level.

I respect one Libertarian...Penn Gillette. A great entertainer and very smart, but not when it comes to viable solutions.
If you have to use absolutism to make your case against libertarian concepts, you've already lost. Or you're just an idiot.
Carry on fren.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
The Libertarian Party has never polled above 7-8%. Ron Paul did the best ever of any of their candidates and all he did was help split the GOP vote.

Libertarianism sounds good, but it would require a utopian planet to work as designed. You know, where everyone did their own thing and only paid for the services they wanted from government. Basically, everyone would need to be in agreement, which could never happen.

We need roads, prisons, subsidized public transportation and many other services that would be "optional" to a true Libertarian. Prostitution and all drugs would be legalized and the magical "free market" would be the deciding factor and make everything thrive.

Police and fire services would be optional, like insurance, because everyone is left to their own devices. If your house catches on fire and you haven't opted-in to the fire services, your home burns to the ground. Free choice, free market. "Perfection".

Again, since there is no such thing as a free market except in theory, the utopian state of being that could never possibly exist that is required in order for it to work. It's easy to be a Libertarian and armchair quarterback "solutions" that make zero sense in the real world. Libertarianism only works on the hypothetical level.

I respect one Libertarian...Penn Gillette. A great entertainer and very smart, but not when it comes to viable solutions.
You’re not smart when it comes to viable solutions either. Just an authoritarian who believes he has a right to plunder working classes for his charitable causes on a federal level.

The federal government should be more libertarian than the authoritarian streak it’s on.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
The Libertarian Party has never polled above 7-8%. Ron Paul did the best ever of any of their candidates and all he did was help split the GOP vote.

Libertarianism sounds good, but it would require a utopian planet to work as designed. You know, where everyone did their own thing and only paid for the services they wanted from government. Basically, everyone would need to be in agreement, which could never happen.

We need roads, prisons, subsidized public transportation and many other services that would be "optional" to a true Libertarian. Prostitution and all drugs would be legalized and the magical "free market" would be the deciding factor and make everything thrive.

Police and fire services would be optional, like insurance, because everyone is left to their own devices. If your house catches on fire and you haven't opted-in to the fire services, your home burns to the ground. Free choice, free market. "Perfection".

Again, since there is no such thing as a free market except in theory, the utopian state of being that could never possibly exist that is required in order for it to work. It's easy to be a Libertarian and armchair quarterback "solutions" that make zero sense in the real world. Libertarianism only works on the hypothetical level.

I respect one Libertarian...Penn Gillette. A great entertainer and very smart, but not when it comes to viable solutions.
Libertarianism breaks down when you accept people don’t make rational decisions in their own best interest. People like to believe everyone is smart enough to take care of themselves but the truth is most people are idiots and without oversight our society would be apes throwing :censored2: and killing each other.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Libertarianism breaks down when you accept people don’t make rational decisions in their own best interest. People like to believe everyone is smart enough to take care of themselves but the truth is most people are idiots and without oversight our society would be apes throwing :censored2: and killing each other.
Okay, but why not take care of it on a state level? Why do we need a centralized leviathan no one can escape from if your policies are so great?
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Libertarianism breaks down when you accept people don’t make rational decisions in their own best interest. People like to believe everyone is smart enough to take care of themselves but the truth is most people are idiots and without oversight our society would be apes throwing :censored2: and killing each other.

Exactly. Can you imagine if the Libertarians here actually got their way and it became reality? Mass chaos would undoubtedly prevail. Toss in millions of gun-toting people with room temperature IQs and the morgues would be overflowing.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Okay, but why not take care of it on a state level? Why do we need a centralized leviathan no one can escape from if your policies are so great?
Can you imagine an interstate highway system that relied only on state funding?
 
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