Catatonic
Nine Lives
Packages first, then people.
I can actually recall a UPS where people used to come first.
That's a good memory.
Packages first, then people.
I can actually recall a UPS where people used to come first.
Because people do not realize, how much time they will need, or that it is available or what it even is. I did not understand the concept until I had a sick spouse. And I used it even though I was told, it'll be Ok dont worry about your job, worry about your husband. While that was comforting, I had no idea how long it would last or if I get a new manager tomorrow, will it change. So I applied. It was granted and I had the stress relieved, I could do what I needed to and my job was protected. You may be suprised that people do not know what benefits and rights they have. I have told people about short term disability who never knew they were entitled. Your boss doesnt tell you, the union doesnt tell you, they will if you ask, but if you dont ask, you may never know.Its a sad case, but why didnt he push the fmla issue from the get go? That wouldnt have given the sups any wiggle room if what they could do, if he didnt have fmla as hoke said you have to hold everyone to the same standard or you create a workplace of you did this and this for so and so but wont for me.....
I can tell by reading your posts that you would do the exact same thing that this auditor sup did. I can only hope that this company will never promote anymore people like the two of you!Its a sad case, but why didnt he push the fmla issue from the get go? That wouldnt have given the sups any wiggle room if what they could do, if he didnt have fmla as hoke said you have to hold everyone to the same standard or you create a workplace of you did this and this for so and so but wont for me.....
I can tell by reading your posts that you would do the exact same thing that this auditor sup did. I can only hope that this company will never promote anymore people like the two of you!
This employee if you could read had never had any talk withs over his previous 5 years. i would exchange hellos in passing with him a few times a week when we crossed paths. But that does not mean that he knew what the contract said or even knew state and federal laws.
Of course its real easy for you to question why a man that was facing a serious illness like cancer would be too consumed by emotions for himself and his family to forget to ask his sups what he should do.
Once he was questioned and he explained he was going through chemo and other treatments he was explained about FMLA. He should not have been disciplined then or even a week later because some desk jockey could not process his paper work timely.
I was actually hoping this was a rare occurance but from reading others in this thread this is sad. A company that is as large as UPS and to treat employees like this is just wrong.
I know its not right, but i do wish a painful and slow death on any human being that treats people like Rick was treated.
I want the company to rescind the discipline! I will not withdraw these grievances and take them to panel if need be. An employees record should not be tarnished for his years of service because he got sick and eventually died.
I have enjoyed reading alot of your posts in the past. But its obvious by your last few posts that its a great thing that you are out of the operation aspect of this company!It's sad that the union's actions in the past forces the company to act in this manner.
Red this holier then thou atittude you have may bite you in the ass somedayI can tell by reading your posts that you would do the exact same thing that this auditor sup did. I can only hope that this company will never promote anymore people like the two of you!
This employee if you could read had never had any talk withs over his previous 5 years. i would exchange hellos in passing with him a few times a week when we crossed paths. But that does not mean that he knew what the contract said or even knew state and federal laws.
Of course its real easy for you to question why a man that was facing a serious illness like cancer would be too consumed by emotions for himself and his family to forget to ask his sups what he should do.
Once he was questioned and he explained he was going through chemo and other treatments he was explained about FMLA. He should not have been disciplined then or even a week later because some desk jockey could not process his paper work timely.
I was actually hoping this was a rare occurance but from reading others in this thread this is sad. A company that is as large as UPS and to treat employees like this is just wrong.
I know its not right, but i do wish a painful and slow death on any human being that treats people like Rick was treated.
I want the company to rescind the discipline! I will not withdraw these grievances and take them to panel if need be. An employees record should not be tarnished for his years of service because he got sick and eventually died.
It's sad that the union's actions in the past forces the company to act in this manner.
Typical management tactics! Once it is pointed out that you are an ass! You then threaten my job over it! Bring it on! You do not like me as a steward and that's great with me! I'M not here to be liked by management! However i do my job the way i was trained and everyone of my customers even on my new route adore me.Red this holier then thou atittude you have may bite you in the ass someday
Hoax, I have to admit that this post is out of character from what I have come to expect from you.
This is not something that is normal behavior for a lot of the managers i deal with daily.
Whatever Red, holier then thou, Ill remember that everything else is just BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHTypical management tactics! Once it is pointed out that you are an ass! You then threaten my job over it! Bring it on! You do not like me as a steward and that's great with me! I'M not here to be liked by management! However i do my job the way i was trained and everyone of my customers even on my new route adore me.
Once management was made aware of his illness and they informed him of his rights they now have the responsibility to expedite his FMLA request! Not threaten his job and medical benefits which he was using to cover his treatments!
This is not something that is normal behavior for alot of the managers i deal with daily. This sup and others that believe what this sup did was right should all be removed form their positions at ups and never heard from again!
I hope that you never get seriously ill, they won't skip a heart beat to sweep your ass under the rug.Wow, Reds in rare form again. The supervisor was in his rights, whether its right or wrong morally, he hadnt been approved for fmla yet, he had all these attendance strikes recently against him already, to keep business as usual which the company and IBT want a warning letter should have been issued. Red Im sorry for your loss, but we've had this discussion before you expect the company to cater to these special circumstances and it just cant be done and I dont know why you persist in thinking they should. Should any management try to work with this person? Of course, but the he should have filed for FLMA as soon as he found out about the condition and when Ive had family use FLMA, when the diagnosis was found the Drs brought it up when they talked about side effects and what not
Its a sad case, but why didnt he push the fmla issue from the get go?
It's sad that the union's actions in the past forces the company to act in this manner.
I have enjoyed reading alot of your posts in the past. But its obvious by your last few posts that its a great thing that you are out of the operation aspect of this company! You drewed and this full time auditor sup on the twilight in palatine will all eventually get what you have coming!
And i hope its slow and painful!
Several weeks back we had an employee that was brought in the office for attendance. This employee is a part time auditor on the twilight shift. During the conversation he explained that he has called in here and there because he has cancer and is going through treatments. The treatments take a toll on his body and if he could come to work he would.
He was explained his rights under FMLA which he would now apply for. But before he left the office he was placed on notice of suspension for his attendance.
A little over a week later while he was still waiting for his FMLA to get approved he called in again because he was not up to coming in to work after his treatments. He was now placed on notice of termination for his attendance.
This supervisor already knew that he is sick. She already knew that he has applied for the FMLA. She knew that he is fighting for his life but obviously does not care.
I tried my best to inform him that he has nothing to worry about that we would not allow him to lose his job because hes sick with cancer and that the treatments he was goiing through made him to sick to come to work.
This employee has over 5 years in as a part timer and has never had any talk withs for anything!
This is why I do what I do! This has been eating me up the last few days because this employees heart gave out and he died. He died thinking that the company he worked for wants to fire him because he was sick.
When someone is sick we band together to show support and help them through the tough times. Crap even ups hits us up for United way donations yearly. But they can not show an employee a little respect during these times?
I have a baptism to go to today and I can assure you that I will be praying hard for karma to come back around on this sup!