Shop Steward Sent Home!

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Number24, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Number24

    Number24 #24

    So today I was sent at the end of the day away from my work station to go help load because a belt was in need of help and my shop steward was beside me loading (or pulling work) rather, when he had noticed a supervisor loading 3 trucks. (Nothing new at my
    Local) I saw the belt supervisor loading it also and was just about to ask my shop steward if he had seen him loading as well. Luckily, he caught on to it and told him why he was loading.. he responded saying because he had sent one of his loaders home. They then began going off at each other... Shop Steward: "Its Union Law NOT to load cars you know?" PT Sup: "But my FT Sup is YELLING at me telling me to get the truck bulked in before departure"

    Then the two just started going at each other hourly vs. management type of deal blah blah; in conclusion to the whole argument the PT Sups sends my Shop Steward home.
  2. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Grievance it.

    Get paid.
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  3. HardknocksUPSer

    HardknocksUPSer Well-Known Member

  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It was inappropriate for both to argue in front of the other hourlies.
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  5. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    I always told people, just file on me. Sometimes it's the only way the guys upstairs will listen to staffing concerns. I never did get filed on as a PTer though. None of my local sorters cared.
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  6. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    this is about the only way things change at UPS>
  7. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    So you just blatantly disregard the contract?
    Sounds about right
  8. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    I usually file on their behalf....none of them cared either.
  9. MendozaJ

    MendozaJ Active Member

    Don't argue. Just grieve, baby.
  10. Clock Sucker

    Clock Sucker I handle a lot of packages

    Well that supe should be fired by Friday...
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  11. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Sounds like you have a rookie for a Steward.

    A good Steward will never argue with a sup on the belt.

    A good Steward will never use the term "union law."

    A good Steward may ask the sup why he is loading, but will most likely just document the time and, at the end of the day, ask the center manager to pay an hourly for the time.

    If the center manager refuses to pay, it is a no brainer grievance. It will win everytime.
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  12. Austin.Was.My.Hero

    Austin.Was.My.Hero quod erat demonstrandum

    Apparently your shop steward is not doing his job.
  13. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    "union law" :happy-very:
    I'm gonna start using that one.
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  14. Number24

    Number24 #24

    My steward is an old rag.
  15. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    I needed more people, couldn't get approval for it, someone had the opportunity to make money off of me doing it, and we would have ended up getting another employee that paid union dues.

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    When you're a PT sup, you do what you're told by the Full Timers as well.
    He doesn't control staffing or has any power to make grievable decisions.
    If he's told to do something that can be grieved, he still has to do it.
    A union employee just has to say something then file a grievance.

    It's up to the FT managers to keep staffing full.
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  17. Number24

    Number24 #24

    All FT managers care about are numbers in the end. They can care less if he or she (FT Sup) works their PT Sups loading trucks and gets hit with a grievance for doing so.
  18. Method$

    Method$ Member

    All it takes is a backbone. I filed on a full time sup doing a rte after a driver was fired (the firing was just). Ft sup pulled my aside and thanked me.

    (Maybe he was working too hard?!?)
  19. Number24

    Number24 #24

  20. Within the last year (on the pre-load) PT sups are told to harp about stacking outside the truck which leads to egress/safety issues. Then they'll go over and pull the loader's stuff off the belt for him/her while loader putts the stack-out(s) away.

    Do it all the time and when you bring it up to them they say it was an egress issue which means Sups allowed to do it. But the areas you see this mostly are the heavy areas that are set up by the FT Sups for the loader to fail.

    Widened the belt, sped up the belts, have more people scanning at one time, have a big pile of semi-sorted :censored2: going down the belt (splitters expected to load trucks also), can't see all your stuff going down but still expected to pull it (and pull for your neighbor if he missed anything) = more time looking for your :censored2: than you have time to put it away.

    Long gone are the "single file" days
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