kingOFchester
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hall had stated that if UPS didn't pull their health care proposition, he would walk away. So I guess that could be good being that we haven't heard anything.
Honestly Chester I was through so many of these things. I really expect this to be all signed, sealed and delivered by June. And it will really piss off the hardhall had stated that if UPS didn't pull their health care proposition, he would walk away. So I guess that could be good being that we haven't heard anything.
I am thinking that we are not hearing anything because they are making progress and do not want to get anyone all excited, because they could get this done by the end of March.
I think it is going to happen.
I'd like to think that, but I suspect Scott Davis hasn't decided how far he's willing to go in effort to lower labor costs.
Kind of hard to go much lower then minimum wage and no benefits for a year.
True. But the word around is all the managers are buying the stock back. This can change in 5 to 10 years.He said by March 31st he wanted a deal done that was satisfactory for the employees or see ya the end of July. UPS can send proposals in, but he wasn't sitting at the negotiating table after that time. It's no secret that UPS lolligags in the beginning. We don't need to wait out UPS, we just need to wait out Scottie D. He has share holders to answer to. This is UPS answering for 5 years of sins.
I hear you. But how many people would work at a job that cost more then you make a week? I know any job is better then no job unless you are just digging yourself deeper into a hole. Can't find enough people to stay now.How bout forcing us (PTers) to give back that hourly premium, gut our benefits (as proposed ... no details) & then charge us $90/week? A 30% direct pay cut for me, plus additional monies spent on health care.
Even if an agreement is reach, I expect my benefits to be somewhat diluted. E.g. office visits go from $10 to $20, prescriptions go from $0 to $5 (generic)/$10 (non-generic); $250 per person deductible (currently $0). This will heavily lower the company's cost, since it will prevent many cash-strapped PTers from going to the doctor's unless it's absolutely necessary. I'd be shocked if (something like) this doesn't happen, and get called a victory.
Even if an agreement is reach, I expect my benefits to be somewhat diluted. E.g. office visits go from $10 to $20, prescriptions go from $0 to $5 (generic)/$10 (non-generic); $250 per person deductible (currently $0). This will heavily lower the company's cost, since it will prevent many cash-strapped PTers from going to the doctor's unless it's absolutely necessary. I'd be shocked if (something like) this doesn't happen, and get called a victory.
I agree, Hall has stated we won't pay nine cents, he's never said they benefits would remain the same. We have to keep our eyes on the fine print...
Two-tiered system?
I think that would be a positive thing. Reminds me of a time prior to 1999 when management focused on making educated decisions. You can't tell me that there was a drastic difference between then and now?
There is no one left to throw under the bus.Future hires are gonna get shafted hard. My prediction anyway. I'll be enrolling in the health insurance almost exactly 30 days before the contract takes effect. Talk about the nick of time.
hall had stated that if UPS didn't pull their health care proposition, he would walk away. So I guess that could be good being that we haven't heard anything.