UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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2008 is clearly different.
2008 is clearly different.
reydluap
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I just truely believe that all the people that have lost their jobs or work for 1/2 of our wages will understand a Union strikers point of view. All they will see is a 70 to 90 thousand dollar a year job with complete medical benifits in these times! Before you flex your muscles and stick out your chest......you might want to be careful that you are not going to be replaced by cheaper labor (a.k.a scabs...as you call them).
If the autoworkers were not making up to $50 an hour and benifits...the auto industry wouldn't have the overhead they have. Yes, I agree with the point of the big SUV's....they are getting hit from all sides. High Labor cost and an economy gone sour.
Sometimes people can't see the trees because of the forest.
If the autoworkers were not making up to $50 an hour and benifits...the auto industry wouldn't have the overhead they have. Yes, I agree with the point of the big SUV's....they are getting hit from all sides. High Labor cost and an economy gone sour.
Sometimes people can't see the trees because of the forest.
Chnandler Bong
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I heard from another driver that 710 has already stated that it will continue negotiations beyond the August 1 deadline and continue working under the current contract. This was second-hand news, so take it for what it's worth. From my perspective this is the correct thing to do. I don't know if 705 is on the same page though.
tieguy
Banned
paidslave
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Yes TIEGUY, you are a math major. I bet you were still doing 25 stops an hour like expected of hourlys when you break routes out.......
I DID MY HOMEWORK:
..........You just said, your exact quote, "Everyone who went out had an an area of at least 5 normal driver routes"!
So the bet remains you get at least 5 normal driver routes per day!
HOT DOGS AND BEANS ANY DAY you RUN 5 ROUTES...
I am not that desperate!
RUN your arse off pal doing 5 routes for weeks, I DON"T CARE!
And for the lame excuse for gas prises, my route I burn 6 gallons of gas. WHIPPIE it cost UPS an extra $12. UPS raised the rates 5 percent this year and I guarantee that on a minimum day I have on my truck 5k to 10k of paid frieght. Multiply that times .05 and that is $500 a day extra just on my route. In the greater sceme of things $12 for fuel is a very lame excuse!
Lastly, you seem like a computer geek anyway to even pick up a package! Sorry to say........
tieguy
Banned
Yes TIEGUY, you are a math major. I bet you were still doing 25 stops an hour like expected of hourlys when you break routes out.......
I DID MY HOMEWORK:
..........You just said, your exact quote, "Everyone who went out had an an area of at least 5 normal driver routes"!
So the bet remains you get at least 5 normal driver routes per day!
HOT DOGS AND BEANS ANY DAY you RUN 5 ROUTES...
I am not that desperate!
RUN your arse off pal doing 5 routes for weeks, I DON"T CARE!
And for the lame excuse for gas prises, my route I burn 6 gallons of gas. WHIPPIE it cost UPS an extra $12. UPS raised the rates 5 percent this year and I guarantee that on a minimum day I have on my truck 5k to 10k of paid frieght. Multiply that times .05 and that is $500 a day extra just on my route. In the greater sceme of things $12 for fuel is a very lame excuse!
Lastly, you seem like a computer geek anyway to even pick up a package! Sorry to say........
hot dogs and beans? Is that some type of sick food fetish of yours?
paidslave
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Fnix
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Does that mean when I go and cash my check on Friday I cant stare down the tellers shirt when she bends over?
paidslave
Well-Known Member
Economics? Interesting the stock is up nearly 4% on this grim news.........Profits were in line.....
Whats your point TIEBABY?
paidslave
Well-Known Member
NO not a fetish.....It juste taste better than baby food.....
Go smoke your cigarette.....
1989
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Stock is up on the bullish signs for the second half of the year and oil down $20 over the past week.
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710
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thats becasue 710 has a no strike clause in the contract, but like the last strike if 705 came to 710 and picketed, 710 wont cross the lines.
705red
Browncafe Steward
Well after the strike vote sunday ups submitted there economic proposal today to the union. Are you ready for this?
Aug 1st 2008 15 Cents
feb 1st 2008 15 cents
aug 1st 2009 and 2010 17 and a half cents
feb 1st 2009 and 2010 17 and a half cents
aug 1st 2011 20 cents
feb 1st 2011 20 cents
aug 1st 2012 25 cents and again on feb 1st with an additional 12 bucks a week paid into the pension per year over the 5 years. While also bringing topout progression upto 4 years, 90 days notice to retire, 36 months for family medical coverage.
Really? Ups and the union had there worse meeting by far today with sparring back and forth across the table. Ups you are down to 3 dates to meet and hammer out this contract before chicago walks out next friday!
Aug 1st 2008 15 Cents
feb 1st 2008 15 cents
aug 1st 2009 and 2010 17 and a half cents
feb 1st 2009 and 2010 17 and a half cents
aug 1st 2011 20 cents
feb 1st 2011 20 cents
aug 1st 2012 25 cents and again on feb 1st with an additional 12 bucks a week paid into the pension per year over the 5 years. While also bringing topout progression upto 4 years, 90 days notice to retire, 36 months for family medical coverage.
Really? Ups and the union had there worse meeting by far today with sparring back and forth across the table. Ups you are down to 3 dates to meet and hammer out this contract before chicago walks out next friday!
You have got to be kidding. A proposal like that is pretty much saying "go ahead and strike, I double dare ya!" Please tell us that's a joke.
705red
Browncafe Steward
No sir im in the process of receiving the propsal to post it on here. If its a strike they want we will give it to them! Even the people that were bordering today are now calling for blood. Could you imagine what the vote turnout would have been if we had this last week.
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westsideworma
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they should at least give you what the national agreement provides? You guys do the same job that everyone in the national agreement does...why would they think you'd accept any less?
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