What's you predictions for the Ohio rider?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 407, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Anonymous 12

    Anonymous 12 Non active member

    Pass or fail?
     
  2. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I really don't care one way or the other (despite) my signature below. It's their rider, it's their choice.
    But my guess is, it will pass, barely.
     
  3. AndUPSER

    AndUPSER Active Member

    I'm thinking pass, by only a few votes. Strong turnout in local 100 equals fail.
     
  4. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    I hope it passes I'm tired of these guys in my local passing out vote no
     
  5. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Fail. Why not wait the full 5 yrs. Then the union will say they need to take it. Or, They will raise retirement age to 60
     
  6. AndUPSER

    AndUPSER Active Member

    Which is why if there is heavy turnout from local 100 it will fail. I have noticed my local has been passing out pamphlets specifically toward PTers to vote no. Some will blindly follow, some will have no clue about the Ohio Rider and throw away the ballot.

    Also, I have noticed vote no to keep your healthcare pamphlets. As of my understanding, this is the last vote on the Ohio Rider and the next vote is the "strike" vote. Even if that passes, IBT will not allow that to happen and we will be stuck with what we got.
     
  7. User Name

    User Name Only 230 Today?? lol

  8. O/C

    O/C Member

    It will be close no matter, high seniority hub, feeders and package voting "NO" in our local. I am afraid that we just opened pandora's box for our future early retirement hopes if this contract passes, smells like the "82" contract. History repeating itself.
     
  9. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    Lets hope our brothers and sisters from Local 100 show up to vote and drive this garbage down!
     
  10. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    It will not pass in 100 and I almost forgot TDU SUX
     
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  11. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    So you think it will pass even though you were passing out vote no literature. Very interesting
     
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  13. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    What happened in '82? And you guys under the OH rider can still retire at 25, I.e. retire early?
     
  14. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    Yes you can retire with a 25 and out pension
     
  15. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    I said it wouldn't in Cincy bubble disagreed he must have voted yes. That's a shocker
     
  16. O/C

    O/C Member

    The "82" contract was the establishment of the two tier pay scale. It was the first time or only time that we had a signing bonus, (1,000 full time/500 part time). The funny thing is that Jim Casey passed around that year and had it in his will to give every employee (union or non) that amount of money as a gift. I guess somebody from corporate decided to use it as negotiation tool.

    Trying to drive home a point that if you vote bad language in a contract, it will haunt you forever and never improves, gets worst in fact.

    Yes we have a 25 year age 57 (2,500) clause in the IBT/UPS pension plan (2,000 prior to age 57). The deductibles and co pays after 2016 will cost us about 4,000 a year, forget about the 80/20 for major medical. We lost ground big time.
     
  17. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    Yes you guys got murderered. Not being able to get benefits till your 57 is BS. In the West we have the Golden 80, which is your age plus years of service and retire w full benefits. If we would have gone into that TEAMGarbage Care we would have lost that.
     
  18. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    Explain the golden 80 and is it just for health care
     
  19. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    For example, if you got hired at 20 years old you qualify for retirement at age 50 w full benefits. 50 years old plus 30 years of service = Golden 80.
     
  20. Anonymous 12

    Anonymous 12 Non active member

    Wouldn't that be a hard plan to sustain in the long term?? What's percent is your pension funded at?