🚨 UPS Cutting 20,000 Jobs?!!!! Really… 🤷‍♀️

worldwide

Well-Known Member
A priority when things are going well. That's why there is layoff language in there also.

The company could just end up laying off permanently a ton of Teamsters.
Yeah, not sure how the company can create jobs for volume that doesn't exist. They aren't going to hire inside staff and drivers to sot and deliver non-existent packages. What does the contract say are the ramifications if the jobs are not created by the end of the agreement? Are there specific penalties listed within the agreement?
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Yeah, not sure how the company can create jobs for volume that doesn't exist. They aren't going to hire inside staff and drivers to sot and deliver non-existent packages. What does the contract say are the ramifications if the jobs are not created by the end of the agreement? Are there specific penalties listed within the agreement?
Lots of supervisors doing work and just paying grievances, and I hear lots of drivers filing 9.5 every day. Feels like they can hire more people. I have no clue if 30,000 worth, but definitely some
 
Yeah, not sure how the company can create jobs for volume that doesn't exist. They aren't going to hire inside staff and drivers to sot and deliver non-existent packages. What does the contract say are the ramifications if the jobs are not created by the end of the agreement? Are there specific penalties listed within the agreement?
UPS isn't even filling the positions of drivers that retired and the union isn't doing :censored2: about it. So are they going to fight for those jobs along with the "30,000" that are supposed to be created? The teamsters have :censored2:ed around for too long and I'm not sure if there's any coming back from it.
 

clean hairy

Well-Known Member
Can current human employees slow down to the speed of the robots?
Show us how it works out with smalls flooding the belt as it is during peak.
No footage of robots opening the bags and dumping the smalls onto the belt?
This video is all staged, as it is rare to have smalls so far apart....
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Section 38 of the contract deals with layoffs. Why would that be there unless layoffs are a possibility?

Subcontracting language is in there but is automation subcontracting?

Hard for tough guy to demand the company add jobs when the work is not there.

@Doublestandards is right, no need to let sups be doing our work, even if the jobs saved is few. File those grievances.
 

Sacrificial Lamb

Package Shepherd
Can current human employees slow down to the speed of the robots?
Show us how it works out with smalls flooding the belt as it is during peak.
No footage of robots opening the bags and dumping the smalls onto the belt?
This video is all staged, as it is rare to have smalls so far apart....
I would like to see how it handles leakers, overgoods and irregs.
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
Section 38 of the contract deals with layoffs. Why would that be there unless layoffs are a possibility?

Subcontracting language is in there but is automation subcontracting?

Hard for tough guy to demand the company add jobs when the work is not there.

@Doublestandards is right, no need to let sups be doing our work, even if the jobs saved is few. File those grievances.
I grieved a supervisor for doing union work and they tried telling me and my coworkers that by grieving we are causing more layoffs. They are telling workers that management doing union work creates more jobs and prevents layoffs, because the numbers will look better and they’ll give us more volume. They say that if we grieve, and managers stop working, the numbers look worse and they will take volume away
 
I grieved a supervisor for doing union work and they tried telling me and my coworkers that by grieving we are causing more layoffs. They are telling workers that management doing union work creates more jobs and prevents layoffs, because the numbers will look better and they’ll give us more volume. They say that if we grieve, and managers stop working, the numbers look worse and they will take volume away
That's BS
 
Can current human employees slow down to the speed of the robots?
Show us how it works out with smalls flooding the belt as it is during peak.
No footage of robots opening the bags and dumping the smalls onto the belt?
This video is all staged, as it is rare to have smalls so far apart....
There's a decent amount of companies working on humanoid robots. The Muskrat is doing it at Tesla.
 

Sacrificial Lamb

Package Shepherd
I grieved a supervisor for doing union work and they tried telling me and my coworkers that by grieving we are causing more layoffs. They are telling workers that management doing union work creates more jobs and prevents layoffs, because the numbers will look better and they’ll give us more volume. They say that if we grieve, and managers stop working, the numbers look worse and they will take volume away
I hate this level of gaslighting, just grieve and write everything that smooth brain said to bring it up at the meeting and get paid for his mental handicap.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
I passed one of my old package buddies today and that sum bitch was fatter than me and I was a feeder driver for 9 years and have been retired for close to 4 years.
I've lost about 30lbs since I retired and in better physical shape also. Don't want the extra weight to carry when backpacking six miles up the side of a mountain.
 
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