🚨 UPS Cutting 20,000 Jobs?!!!! Really… 🤷‍♀️

[BrownFlush]

All of us aren't millionaires

It's not what you peasants think.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I always make sure to get my 1801 hours

WDFD

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

So cut jobs to create jobs. Also cuts into union dues flowing in. The boys ain't gonna' like that.

UPS has always been very honest with the jobs that they have added. Only because of the Teamsters holding UPS accountable.

 

[rod]

All of us aren't millionaires

I had to wait until after I retired to gain that status.

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

https://x.com/uimusog6125/status/1918139076206837927

Dude... I saw this on Reddit. This is the Terminator in the making. There's this funny dude on YouTube named Joey B Toonz that covers the downfall of civilization. He played a video of one of these humanoid robots and was like "don't people realize how bad this is going to be when you put a gun in its hands?"... AI and humanoid robots coming soon to make humans obsolete.

 

[catstalking]

It doesn’t matter who is in charge … you will be getting the same mindset. Everyone of those past CEO’s and kin were and are still overcompensated, nothing is going to change. Carol was just a DEI hire with the prime directive of getting rid of other DEI employees without being sued.

I said this before … be prepared for another attempt to take over or eliminate pension contributions in 2028 similar to 1997.

how is she a DEI when she's literally of a ruling-class demographic?

 

[catstalking]

If you look at the last five CEOs it’s 5-7 give or take. She could go to 2027 when all this recalibration blah blah is finished and then hand the keys over but I think I remember @catstalking saying 2026???

i would not expect her to leave until 2028, before or after the contract depending on how bad she thinks it will go

 

[catstalking]

"creating 30k new jobs" is easy, you just make 30k PT jobs into FT positions and fire however many people you need to make the payroll balance

 

[Pullman Brown]

WE HAVE A PROBLEM: This is a well written and thought out article written by a 26 yr old college student by the name of Alyssa Ahlgren, who's in grad school for her MBA. What a GREAT perspecitve...

My Generation Is Blind to the Prosperity Around Us!
I'm sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis (Florida) trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of presidential candidates calling for policies to "fix" the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around.

I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook's, ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me. We live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous nation and we've become completely blind to it.

Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose.These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don't give them a second thought.

We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty One Times!!!

Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful. ??

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, "An entire generation, which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America, came of age and never saw American prosperity."

Never saw American prosperity! Let that sink in.

When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I've ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided.

My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let's just say I didn't have the popular opinion, but I digress.

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country.

People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they've never seen prosperity, and as a result, we elect some politicians who are dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism.

Why? The answer is this,?? my generation has only seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn't live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, the Korean War, The Vietnam War or we didn't see the rise and fall of socialism and communism.

We don't know what it's like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don't have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it's spreading like a plague."

Tammy Shumate

 

[P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564]

WE HAVE A PROBLEM: This is a well written and thought out article written by a 26 yr old college student by the name of Alyssa Ahlgren, who's in grad school for her MBA. What a GREAT perspecitve...

My Generation Is Blind to the Prosperity Around Us!
I'm sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis (Florida) trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of presidential candidates calling for policies to "fix" the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around.

I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook's, ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me. We live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous nation and we've become completely blind to it.

Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose.These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don't give them a second thought.

We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty One Times!!!

Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful. ??

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, "An entire generation, which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America, came of age and never saw American prosperity."

Never saw American prosperity! Let that sink in.

When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I've ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided.

My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let's just say I didn't have the popular opinion, but I digress.

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country.

People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they've never seen prosperity, and as a result, we elect some politicians who are dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism.

Why? The answer is this,?? my generation has only seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn't live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, the Korean War, The Vietnam War or we didn't see the rise and fall of socialism and communism.

We don't know what it's like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don't have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it's spreading like a plague."

Tammy Shumate

So own nothing and like it because we have all this "cool stuff" now.

 

[Pullman Brown]

So own nothing and like it because we have all this "cool stuff" now.

I agree with you! Thankfulness and yet a real complaint at how civil leaders have screwed a lot of things up.

 

[not here for the drama]

this is an oppurtunity to achieve some gains while helping the company out of a pickle (the pickle being contractually obligated additional jobs while volume is backsliding). for simplicity in math...say all 30000 of those new jobs are driver jobs at $50/hr. you take that $3billion (50x40x52x30000) and let the company keep a cut. i have no idea what is fair in this case, so i won't get into that part (is 50/50 fair, is 10% fair because anything is more than nothing?). the rest gets divvied up amongst the current membership in a combination of raises and new benefits (across the board $x/hr plus two additional weeks vacation?). you also have to have language that the current headcount won't be contracted; you can't always be so eager to screw lower seniority members...that's how 22.4 happened in the last contract. you also need new and stronger language about fully filling the pension obligation that has been lagging for a couple of years now. in the end, you gotta give where you can and dig in where you have to. there is a lot of wool to shear off the ups sheep, but only one pelt to skin...just ask the auto workers who won historic gains and then saw themselves laid off a year later.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

"creating 30k new jobs" is easy, you just make 30k PT jobs into FT positions and fire however many people you need to make the payroll balance

The Teamsters will never fall for that. Lol.

 

[Over70irregs]

The Teamsters will never fall for that. Lol.

I remember the 97 strike 22.4 jobs in 00. They hated those people.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I remember the 97 strike 22.4 jobs in 00. They hated those people.

You confused me with 22.4 jobs in 00...

 

[Over70irregs]

You confused me with 22.4 jobs in 00...

Sorry. Wayback machine

 

[Thebrownblob]

Sorry. Wayback machine

You really have no idea what you’re talking about do you?

 

[Thebrownblob]

this is an oppurtunity to achieve some gains while helping the company out of a pickle (the pickle being contractually obligated additional jobs while volume is backsliding). for simplicity in math...say all 30000 of those new jobs are driver jobs at $50/hr. you take that $3billion (50x40x52x30000) and let the company keep a cut. i have no idea what is fair in this case, so i won't get into that part (is 50/50 fair, is 10% fair because anything is more than nothing?). the rest gets divvied up amongst the current membership in a combination of raises and new benefits (across the board $x/hr plus two additional weeks vacation?). you also have to have language that the current headcount won't be contracted; you can't always be so eager to screw lower seniority members...that's how 22.4 happened in the last contract. you also need new and stronger language about fully filling the pension obligation that has been lagging for a couple of years now. in the end, you gotta give where you can and dig in where you have to. there is a lot of wool to shear off the ups sheep, but only one pelt to skin...just ask the auto workers who won historic gains and then saw themselves laid off a year later.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You really have no idea what you’re talking about do you?

22.3 jobs in 1997
22.4 jobs in 2018

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

this is an oppurtunity to achieve some gains while helping the company out of a pickle (the pickle being contractually obligated additional jobs while volume is backsliding). for simplicity in math...say all 30000 of those new jobs are driver jobs at $50/hr. you take that $3billion (50x40x52x30000) and let the company keep a cut. i have no idea what is fair in this case, so i won't get into that part (is 50/50 fair, is 10% fair because anything is more than nothing?). the rest gets divvied up amongst the current membership in a combination of raises and new benefits (across the board $x/hr plus two additional weeks vacation?). you also have to have language that the current headcount won't be contracted; you can't always be so eager to screw lower seniority members...that's how 22.4 happened in the last contract. you also need new and stronger language about fully filling the pension obligation that has been lagging for a couple of years now. in the end, you gotta give where you can and dig in where you have to. there is a lot of wool to shear off the ups sheep, but only one pelt to skin...just ask the auto workers who won historic gains and then saw themselves laid off a year later.

That's not how contracts work.

Also, why would the union incentivize reductions to the gains that we won?