MAKAVELI
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Maybe, but I don't think he is any better than Flacco. He is obviously on the downside of his career.
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FromOffTheStreets
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That's exactly what I had in mind. Barry in Dallas would have probably broken the 3000 yard mark in a year.
Emmitt in Detroit, woulda been a nobody
KOG72
I’m full of it
I’d like to seen him in a Steelers uniform and Marino too who we passed on.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
How would Jerry Rice numbers look without Montana and Young?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Pedestrian.
FromOffTheStreets
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True. It's a team game. The 1 guy that sticks out is Brady though. Talent wise he's average among QBs but everyone tries to make him the god of QBs.
There are some RBs like Barry & some defensive players that pretty much did everything on their own ability though.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
I’m not sure how you can say Brady is average among QBs. He hasn’t had the most talented receivers to throw to his whole career. He has six rings, SIX! And should probably have eight if not for two fluky loses to the Eagles and Giants. Did you watch him in the second half of the Super Bowl against Atlanta? I can’t stand the guy, but don’t think he’s average at all. He’s pretty amazing.
Serf
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Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. Is a 4 star General. What they(Pats) and him have accomplished since 2001 is likely never to be seen again in the NFL.
FromOffTheStreets
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I'm simply saying if Brady was drafted by the Browns he would have been a Romo level QB. Pretty good but not the G.O.A.T. He hit the lottery with the Patriots.
A good way to measure it is when Brady was knocked out for a year Matt Cassel leads them to like a 9-7 record. You dont see "regular" teams hold together that well when their starting QB goes down.
Around that same time peyton manning was out for a year & Indianapolis goes 1-15.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Matt Cassel can't carry Brady's jockstrap.
Just think, the Brady phenomenon may never have been had the Jets not knocked Bledsoe out of the game (and ultimately his job).
Bridgewater, Minshew, Allen and Brissett, among others, have all done unexpectedly well when thrust in to the starter's role; in fact, Kyle Allen's play has made it that much easier for the Panthers to save $19M by releasing Cam Newton. Josh Allen is doing much better in his second year; however, both Darnold and Mayfield have gone backward.
Just think, the Brady phenomenon may never have been had the Jets not knocked Bledsoe out of the game (and ultimately his job).
Bridgewater, Minshew, Allen and Brissett, among others, have all done unexpectedly well when thrust in to the starter's role; in fact, Kyle Allen's play has made it that much easier for the Panthers to save $19M by releasing Cam Newton. Josh Allen is doing much better in his second year; however, both Darnold and Mayfield have gone backward.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Are implying that if Romo played for New England his entire career he’d have six rings?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Looks like we have to add Baker Mayfield to the list.
I doubt it but he was a Good QB
FromOffTheStreets
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With Romo new England probably still has @ least 4.
With Rodgers or Brees new England could have more than 6.
All I'm saying is that the Patriots as a complete organization has been far superior to any other team over the last 20 years. & I think that would have been true with or without Brady.
FromOffTheStreets
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Would Brady have 6 rings with the Browns?
He would be on the disabled list
Before getting Brady the Pats hadn't done anything, and Belicheck was an average coach who got fired from his last job. Saying that Brady has only been successful because of the organization is straight up delusional. He's the best QB to ever play the game and it's not even close.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
He’d be bangin Giesel on a beach somewhere
