Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Not going to be a problem. From what I hear from Democrats, Trump will be impeached for collusion with the Russians any day now.
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El Correcto
god is dead
What interests me is the libertarians on here are more interested in democrats than the libertarian candidates.
Liberaltarians
Liberaltarians
Why are you assuming I do? I don't understand.
Did every Democratic Presidential candidate on debate night 2 not raise their hand in support of healthcare for illegal immigrants when asked by the moderator who supported it?
Agree. Healthcare is one issue I'll never agree with the Republicans on. Healthcare is a right and all Americans should have access to it. And not just the super expensive ER care that taxpayers end paying for anyway.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
You're just saying you don't take the candidates seriously.
They are talking about reparations.
They are talking about forgiving all student debt.
They are talking about free healthcare for anyone in the world who can get here.
They're being serious.
It will be fine
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That all would take legislative action. It's like Trump promising a wall, stupid plans are much harder to pass through congress.
So don't worry about what the most outspoken members of the Party, its Presidential candidates are proposing because Congress probably couldn't implement their agenda anyway? They're gonna beat Trump with that?
BrownArmy
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It's great to support Israel, but when you put your ill-equipped son-in-law in charge of 'Middle East Policy', and fixing the 'Israel-Palestine' problem, what could possibly go wrong?
By unilaterally declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel (regardless of the merits of that claim, one way or another) Trump proved he wasn't negotiating in good faith.
It's fine to support Israel, but it's counterproductive to support Israel to such an extent that the US loses its position as a disinterested third-party negotiator.
Obviously the US has interests in the region, and I'm not suggesting we go against those interests, but there's a way to do things, and Trump always acts from a position of grabbing headlines and doing the 'biggest, never before seen, most amazing' thing possible.
Well, guess what, orange idiot, there's a real reason that specific things weren't done in the past, and it has to do with diplomacy and rationality.
Things need shaking up, no doubt, but there's no reason to piss in someone else's cereal.
Trump has a near psychotic obsession with being the first to do something, or doing something that's bigger and better than anyone else.
That's not how complex multinational negotiations work.
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On a side note, while Trump 'massively' supports Israel, 'better than anyone, let me tell you', his actions in other regards belie that concept.
His support of Saudi Arabia is a great example.
He says that he supports Israel, and then apologizes for and sells weapons to the Saudi Prince, further destabilizing the region and jeopardizing Israel's safety.
Everything Trump does is transactional, and that means he is often playing both sides to the middle, which would be fine, it's just that he's so incredibly bad at it...
MAKAVELI
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Yeah kind of like how Hillary would be locked up by now.
Obama's ascension to the presidency can attributed to the fact that 61% of registered Democrats actually went to the polls. Hillary Clinton only inspired 56% of registered Democrats to go vote. If the turnout next year is at Obama levels gaining reelection might not be quite so easy for El Duce. If the GOP want the White House they can have it . Gaining control of both houses and all of the committee chairmanships that goes with it.....now there's the real prize.
newfie
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your candidate that will generate Obama level excitement is.....?
question two everyone recognizes trump is an a-hole. with that said are 61 percent going to vote to make a change from this economy that is kicking ass?
keep in mind 61 percent of the democrats put you deep into moderate territory and there is not one candidate leading the DNC field that is close to being a moderate
BrownArmy
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Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Michelle.
BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
Wrong.
You could be right about that Newf but remember something about the Democrats. We had a no name one term Georgia governor , a "Bill Who" governor out of Arkansas and a freshman senator from Illinois with a funny name nobody ever heard of all of whom came out of nowhere to win the presidency. Not saying it's going to happen but the history is there and after next weeks debate look for as many as half of the "your putting me on" type of candidates to drop out leaving space for another "who" to maybe get the shot they've be looking for.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
Trump himself will be the reason that Democrat turnout goes up. As long as the primary process doesn't nominate an extremist, Trump is going to have a tough time.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Who?
Seriously?
I wonder if Bill attended Ross Perot's funeral? He owes him everything.
floridays
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Exactly what is the origin of this right, where does it come from?
Exactly how will you compel physicians to provide their service if they do not feel they are adequately compensated?
Exactly how will the government force a physician to serve in a community if none wants to reside there?
Exactly who will get preference when healthcare is rationed?
I offer a few questions regarding your newly found "right."
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