22.4 Blowback

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wyoming, Nov 5, 2019.

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Is 22.4 good for RPCDs?

Poll closed Nov 12, 2019.
  1. Yes

    10.5%
  2. No

    89.5%
  1. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    The members could have voted it down....
     
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  2. No argument from me.
     
  3. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    We did
     
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  4. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    The union shouldn’t have proposed it in the first place. Thanks for looking out for us!!!!

    what is the union going to propose next? Wage freeze? Paying for health care?

    Your job is not to propose concessions or givebacks and try to at least keep what we have. You can’t even do that any more. What a joke.
     
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  5. BigUnionGuy

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    No.... we didn't.

    Don't forget, it was TDU that was involved changing the IBT Constitution.



    The members better get off their lazy butts and get involved.


    Local 623 just had an election.... with less than 25% turnout.

    Who's the real problem ?
     
  6. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    real problem is the union no longer looks out for who they represent when it comes contract time. If you told me 10 years ago the union WOULD PROPOSE GIVE BACKS i would not believe you. Here we are. Nobody cares about your meaningless elections any more, it’s every man for them selves. Exactly how you guys want it and planned.... so you can continue to enjoy your golf, nice hotels, and working closely with ups brass and playing the same side come contract talk time.
     
  7. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Thanks,

    For exposing yourself as a non-Union.... Right To Work supporter.
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I mean.... wow !
     
  9. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    The elections are now nothing more than illusions. Nothing has changed for the better, Nothing will change for the better. When things change, it’s temporary and everything eventually reverts back to the mean.
     
  10. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    100% by design, the 22.4 was the big wedge needed to split us up, After last contract got forced down some locals mouths even after they met the stupid voting threshold.
    This was All calculated.

    like i said... WHATS THE POINT ANYMORE? Management leaves me alone, pays out my greviences. My local handle my stuff in a speedy manor, that’s all I personally care about more.
     
  11. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    My crystal ball is broke.

    If I ever get it working, I'll answer your questions.
     
  12. Wyoming

    Wyoming New Member

    Faceplanted is right: 22.4 is the high-water mark for permanent 2-tier at UPS, finally to become only lower 1-tier as all of us old RPCDs bow out.
     
  13. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    It’s a done deal. Ups will push next contract for a higher %

    wait...... the teamsters will probably push for a higher percentage next contract. This clown world is funny.
     
  14. Wyoming

    Wyoming New Member

     
  15. Wyoming

    Wyoming New Member

    It is strange that the IBT negotiators allegedly suggested 22.4 in the first place...apparently in a bid to take weekend work pressure off the RPCDs?
     
  16. Weekends, 9.5's but mainly for the pension money

    And more dues money
     
  17. Wyoming

    Wyoming New Member

    Dues drives all, along with double or triple pay jobs at the IBT.
     
  18. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    Ya makes sense. Pay people less to work weekends, give them no 9-5 protection. Sounds like a recipe to split up the full timers who are the only ones who basically vote.

    feeders has been running 7 days for years. If they can make it work with regular full time employees there is no reason this couldn’t in package.
     
  19. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    The fat bastards at the buffet line.
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

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