22.4 Blowback

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wyoming, Nov 5, 2019.

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Is 22.4 good for RPCDs?

Poll closed Nov 12, 2019.
  1. Yes

    10.5%
  2. No

    89.5%
  1. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    Every single driver who voted Yes deserves everything that's coming to them, including but not limited to a major reduction in hours, overtime, and annual income. I don't wish this on anybody but they deserve it if they voted for it. In other words, they ASKED for it, so give it to them and waste no time about it. Hopefully they'll be so mad by the time we vote on a leader that they'll vote Hoffa out, but that's not what's going to happen. Oh no, many propaganda leaflets and Hoffa-zines will be mailed out before then telling us how much he's done for us even though he used a blatant and infamous loophole against us which was like a slap in the face by his little tiny prick.
     
  2. And every single driver that didn't vote... deserves worse
     
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  3. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Disagree.
     
  4. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Feeders also has no 9.5 protection and they switch us to 70 hour weeks whenever they feel like it. You probably don't want that in package.
     
  5. Mike86

    Mike86 Member

    You said a handful there what is sad the people that don't vote then get mad when things don't go right.
     
  6. Mike86

    Mike86 Member

    22.4 is nothing but a joke
     
  7. You can't possibly make it any easier to vote.
     
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  8. Alamo Joe

    Alamo Joe Member

    I think they will have a hard time filling 22.4 positions. No appeal.
     
  9. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Have a ton of 22.4s here
     
  10. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Well-Known Member

    Lol I dont understand the people who say they cant find any 22.4s. You all have clearly spent your entire lives at ups. Your completely ignorant to how many jobs work, :censored2:ty hours, :censored2:ty pay, the list goes on. Alot of people working pt and a ft job will pounce at the idea of one job 20 an hour 34 top with a company that probably isnt going anywhere. You all seem like chicken little screaming the sky is falling when it isnt. Oh and to the other group screaming Amazon is gonna kill us. Nike decided to stop selling there, expect more to follow.
     
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  11. None here yet. Who is going to work Sundays starting at the beginning of the year?

    Gumby will!!
     
  12. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    How is it working so far? I don’t mean whether it sucks or not. I mean how are they are utilizing them and how is it affecting the regular drivers? We don’t have any yet
     
  13. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I am told that my building has some. They look just like any other delivery driver. The big test will come after Peak is over and lay offs begin.
     
  14. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Well my area isn't really a good example. Our contract says they will only work in the building by exception only. So they Drive 100% of the time.

    We also had PT cover drivers. Pretty much every PT cover driver was turned into a 22.4 and switched to a T-S schedule. The funny thing is Monday is when they are hurting for drivers. Pick ups make it hard to cut too many routes. So they began having 22.4s working Mondays and thought they would be sneaky and make deals with them. They would give them whatever day in the middle of the week they wanted off as long as it wasn't Tues or Sat. That was until one of our stewards went to every single 22.4 and told them how they should be making $64 a hour on Mondays. Turns out managment was just paying them top rate. So they all filed a grievance. Then the Steward went to all the cover drivers and told them that they have seniority over 22.4s on Mondays and that's when the :censored2: really hit that fan. Now they are all T-S.
     
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  15. Con Olio

    Con Olio New Member

    without 22.4s who would be running these trips on Sunday come Jan. 1st
     
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    FT drivers. Just like every other day.
     
  17. Con Olio

    Con Olio New Member

    we have crazy callouts for Saturday with rpcd. I can imagine forcing sundays
     
  18. Me
    For $76 an hour
     
  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Can only call out so much until you're fired.
     
  20. Con Olio

    Con Olio New Member

    then it's really forced. I have yet to see a vet bump a rook for Saturday hours. I'm t-s now and was informed this 3months after I was hired. I'd be really pissed if I was now forced to reschedule my life to work sundays. I would hate to quit because I want to see my young kids grow up