22.4 positions

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownMonk, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. We still don't have any 22.4 drivers. Lol
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  2. 3838373

    3838373 Active Member

    April 1,2020 then, if not i can start to file?
  3. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    File away baby!
  4. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    They could start using them even if you don't have weekend ground. The rest of 22.4b simply wouldn't apply if you don't
  5. 3838373

    3838373 Active Member

  6. We have Saturday ground. And Sunday at the beginning of the year supposedly.
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Uh......nope. The contract was ratified in April 2019 which was then backdated to August 1, 2018, hence the back pay. It will expire July 31, 2023.
  8. 3838373

    3838373 Active Member

    Ugh, so 18 months from april 2019?
  9. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member


    Teamsters Ratify Five-Year Contract With UPS

    UPS Contract With Teamsters To Be Implemented, Effective April 29, 2019

    Teamsters ratify UPS contract despite more 'no' votes than 'yes'

    UPS Drivers Voted Down Their Union Contract, But The Teamsters Are Ratifying It Anyway | HuffPost

    UPS Union Wants to Revisit Ratified Labor Agreement

    UPS and UPS Freight Contract Updates

    Teamsters Union Approves UPS Labor Contract—Despite 54% 'No' Vote

    Need I continue? Click on the links, you'll see the dates. The one release from UPS is about the contract being implemented, to contrast with all the articles and releases about ratification published in October 2018.

    Don't listen to him, he's retired and out of the loop.
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  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Look at the front cover of your contract book. You will see that the effective dates are August 1, 2018 through July 31, 2023.

    Did you receive a retro check? Do you have any clue as to how that check was calculated? It was based on all hours worked from 8/1 through the date of ratification.

    I may be out of the loop but it appears that I know more than you on this (and probably every other) topic.

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  11. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    My check was calculated from the 8/1/18 through the dated the contract was implemented.

    You don't know the difference between ratification and implementation. While you are looking those up, look up the word delusional, then go see a mental health professional. You're not helping people by giving them wrong information.
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  12. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I believe the only things that were retroactive to 8-1-18 were the economic parts of the contract.
  13. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Right, they weren't going to go back and make any other changes in regards to what happened before the new changes went into effect. Like they couldn't retroactively change new RPCD's to 22.4's. But the language about moving RPCD's to m-f states specifically from the date of ratification.

    The company knew the language was there, and had plenty of time to set a plan in motion. The only catch to this would have been in the case that the supplements were not ratified within 18 or 24 months, then the new language would not have been implemented in time for that provision to be fulfilled.

    But as things played out, UPS has plenty of time to fulfill the provision. Could UPS argue that they need more time, and could the union grant it? I guess, if no RPCD's want to challenge it.
  14. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

  15. Bingo
  16. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    was his name-o
  17. 3838373

    3838373 Active Member

    Thanks for clarifying the date of October 2018
  18. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    Don't believe a damn thing this idiot says. He don't know his A from a hole in the ground. He thinks killing cats and driving an Altima makes him cool.
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  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

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  20. Just A UPS Guy

    Just A UPS Guy Active Member

    So, you do understand that Aug 1 is not the date of ratification...well done.