3 1/2 question

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownBag12, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. BrownBag12

    BrownBag12 New Member

    Hello I'm wondering if the 3 1/2 guarantee pertains to our specific departments. I work in international and we're only getting an hour an half and after that we're being told that if we want to work 3 1/2 we need to clock out of international and clock into the sort to work in the hub for the remaining time cause they don't have work for us. I wouldn't mind doing so but have a injury and want to take it easy for a couple months before lifting anything too heavy for a long amount of time. I've heard stories about our boss cutting corners inorder to get a bigger bonus at the end of the year and want to make sure that's not what's happening here.

    1 person with less seniority is working off site for only 2 hours and getting the 3 1/2 guarantee. Another with more seniority is getting to stay there the whole 3 1/2 but is the only one working after east pull

    Thanks for any info
     
  2. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    if your in the union your guranteed 3 and a half, if you turn it down to get it then thats your fault
     
  3. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    as far as the clocking out i dont know
     
  4. Tony Q

    Tony Q Well-Known Member

    Article 40 part- time
    employees are guaranteed 3 hours.
     
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  5. BadIdeaGuy

    BadIdeaGuy Don't discriminate against blind preloaders

    I disagree with this.
    The article you reference is about air drivers, right?

    Article 22 guarantees 3 1/2 hours for part timers.

     
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  6. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    If there is not enough work for you in International then yes I believe you can be loaned out to the hub to make your guaranteed time. My building just recently eliminated 3 of 4 International positions.
     
  7. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    If you want the guarantee then you have to go where they tell to work, you don't get the guarantee if you refuse the other work
     
  8. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    The real question is why their making him clock out and back in to get the 3 and half, is there a pay difference
     
  9. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Maybe 2 different time card systems.

    Clocks out on the computer in international. Then clocks in again for operations. So that international isn't charged for his time in the hub.
     
  10. Poop Head

    Poop Head Troll

    She says 3 1/2?? I say its 6!
     
  11. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    i have no clue, certainly possible, could be two different pay rates
     
  12. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    @PoopInDRBag would know
     
  13. iowa boy

    iowa boy Well-Known Member

    ODC clerks are classified as clerks, not a local sorter or reloader, so it's a different classification. The part-timer doesn't have to clock out, they just have to change their classification code in the time card system once they start doing local sort work.
     
  14. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    No the manager does not want to fudge the numbers. If he works in hub while on international payroll. Makes hub production numbers look better than it actually is. Ghost production employee
     
  15. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Read the contract. Air PT are guaranteed 3 hours. Art 40 supersedes all other Articles on the same subject. If you are an air driver, you are guaranteed 3 , if you are not, you are guaranteed 3.5
     
  16. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Either way he's not a PT air driver or Air Walker. He workers in international.
     
  17. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    If they cut you before the 3.5,then you will have to do other work if you want your guarantee.The clocking out I don’t get, seems you would just have to change work code on the Computer.In My Building,those PT International jobs have gone away
     
  18. Poop Head

    Poop Head Troll

    You guys still have walkers?
     
  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Not where I am.