8-hours denied

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wally World, May 16, 2020.

  1. Over70irregs

    Over70irregs Active Member

    Grown men playing paper games. Smh
     
  2. Over70irregs

    Over70irregs Active Member

    Good note
     
  3. Wilson1397

    Wilson1397 Half the lies they tell about me aren't true!!

    We wouldn’t have to if they would just grant the 8 hr request like negotiated in the contract.
     
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  4. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Well-Known Member

    No, they do not get to disregard the contract consequence free.

    They can deny them and pay the grievances
     
  5. Wally World

    Wally World New Member

    Have around 80 drivers. They disapproved everyone last week and disapproved everyone this coming week. Some days it was 3 request some days 8 request. But they circled disapproved on everyone of them with no reason. All were up on time. So basically they will have to pay for everyone of them if grievance is filed by each person ? I assume staffing is not a reason they can use to not pay them ?
     
  6. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Yes everyone who requested them and got denied should file a grievance and they will get paid. Then they need to keep resubmitting the 8 hour requests because they will keep getting penalty pay when they get denied. A driver can get a ton of penalty pay per month if management is stupid enough to go down this road.
     
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  7. Over70irregs

    Over70irregs Active Member

    Kinda wish I would get denied 8hr day request due to their negligence. Especially during pandemic. Easy grievance $.
     
  8. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Yup. Have to allow a certain number every day.
     
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  9. djcodine

    djcodine New Member

    Not only do you get 2 hrs penalty pay but you also get the 8hr request back to use either that month or the following month. Currently for the last 3 months they approve my 8hr requests then just load me up and say I cant have them. Have 7 hr request this month should have 9 next month get 2 hrs pay for everyone I dont get and they just keep rolling over to the next month. Free cash... The best part is eventually its gonna catch up to them and then I will have weeks of 8hr days.
     
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  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I love how he states things like this as fact. When he very clearly has no idea what he’s talking about.
     
  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    With the central having clear decisions on the books to bring back stops and get their 8 hour request. I wonder what other areas would need to do to get this also.
     
  12. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    I put in for 2 every month no matter. If I get them, Great. If I don't, I get 4 hours of pay for free.

    One question: If they deny all of them all the time, what can happen to the company besides a ULP?
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Nothing, especially if they announced well in advance that they would not be honoring any 8 hour requests as of a specific date and that any requests submitted on or after that date would be discarded.

    They would have had to have coordinated this with the union prior to posting this announcement.

    Think about it------you guys are in Peak mode-----how fair would it be to your loop mates if they had to not only deliver their Peak volume but also had to deliver a portion of yours because you just didn't feel like working beyond 8 hours that day?

    What's next-----taking FMLA during Peak to play Daddy for an 11 month old "newborn"?
     
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  14. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    If your FMLA allowed for that time, it can't be denied but I understand the sentiment. I'm not one to take additional time.

    I saw an email that said that the labor dept was telling agents that 9.5 was negotiated out during the covid situation and the national telling agents it isn't true.

    Ignoring a contract article is an issue either way.
     
  15. Over70irregs

    Over70irregs Active Member

    File either way. Browns propaganda machine likes to psyche out and discourage drivers from exerting their rights. Your going to be out late anyway right? You might as well get your (Hero, Christmas, Summer, Beer) money. Use the 9.5 grievance money to open a brokerage account and buy cheap stocks. Let Brown finance you.
     
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  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Possibly end up with more rulings like the central. Where you’re allowed to bring back any excess volume for an 8 hour request.
     
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  17. Martini

    Martini Member

    What is an 8-hour request?
     
  18. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    READ THE CONTRACT

    THIS MAN KNOWS NOTHING
     
  19. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    IT CANT ALWAYS BE PEAK.
     
  20. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    He knows EVERYTHING...