Amazon is going to put UPS and FedEx out of business

[KoennenTiger]

Wow. You want the United States Postal Service gone but you’re ok with ing Deutsche Post? A company that is 70% owned by the German Government. A company that UPS and FedEx have had to fight off trying to take over package business in this country before. A company that is far larger than UPS.

Unbelievable.

Why so serious?

Of course I want all those sweet tiny little Amazon bags weighing 1 pound each you postals get. Most of my work is b2b and it's my normal routine to deliver a minimum of 100 40+ pound boxes every single day. Not to mention furniture, traeger, 110 pound mattresses, and one stop that likes to order "150" pound massive generators next day air.

Don't take this stuff too seriously bro. My wife's BFF husband is a junk mail slave and so are a few of my other friends. Well two but two is a few.

But hey if I can get some of those sweet little bags and hence less time delivering 15 boxes of paper coming in at 60 pounds each? Heck yeah bro, give that work to us.

I deliver more weight in my first stop every single day than the man in blue does in a year. Give me back those sure post postman!!!!

 

[MAKAVELI]

We don’t need a post office nor should we have one. But if government worshippers still insist.....they should not have special treatment. Nor be subsidized by tax payers no matter what form the subsidy/subsidies take.



Not a valid point UNLESS ALL of it went to one carrier. But even then......UPS or FedEx (or whoever else came along as a result) would adapt much quicker than the post office does with new volume.

There have been plenty of peak disasters from both companies in recent years. So much for being able to adapt quickly. Lol

 

[burrheadd]

Because I don't know the drivers they all seem like s and I didn't want to do anything that would draw attention to myself like walking out of the facility with a package under my arm.
Funny how USPS and FedEx can deliver to my apartment no problems but the instant something is shipped with UPS it just disappears.
Tracking number originally indicated that it was scheduled to be delivered July 8th, now there is simply no date listed at all and status update is just gone. God only knows what happened to it.



Maybe I wanted to experience the luxurious service of UPS for a change???

It was weed wasn’t it? Lying will only make it worse

 

[ThatBrownShirtGuy]

I like that they take a picture of your package as proof of delivery.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

There have been plenty of peak disasters from both companies in recent years. So much for being able to adapt quickly. Lol

I’ll take one or two real peak disasters vs almost everyday of the year for the USPS despite enjoying plenty of special treatment/advantages of being the government. LOL.

But but but it’s muh guvment!

 

[MAKAVELI]

I’ll take one or two real peak disasters vs almost everyday of the year for the USPS despite enjoying plenty of special treatment/advantages of being the government. LOL.

But but but it’s muh guvment!

Why do you hate your Union brothers so much?

 

[Mack37]

We don’t need a post office nor should we have one. But if government worshippers still insist.....they should not have special treatment. Nor be subsidized by tax payers no matter what form the subsidy/subsidies take.



Not a valid point UNLESS ALL of it went to one carrier. But even then......UPS or FedEx (or whoever else came along as a result) would adapt much quicker than the post office does with new volume.

Ok we shouldn’t have a post office because you say so. I get it, no real logic behind it but I guess I get it. With your love of corporations, you’re obviously a pretty far right republican as you dislike big government as well. So I guess you don’t think UPS would drop you down to $17 an hour, give you a HDHP that costs $200 a week and make your pension a 401k w/2% company match at the drop of a hat if it weren’t for your union? Giving corporations all the power in this country is not a good idea.

I have a solution though since everybody is cool with DHL. We dissolve the postal service and have the US government buy a controlling interest in both UPS and FedEx. We merge the employees from all three and then keep what infrastructure we need while ditching the rest. We could create a shipping giant like the world has never seen and call it Federal United Parcel Service. FUPS.

What do you think?

 

[Mack37]

I’ll take one or two real peak disasters vs almost everyday of the year for the USPS despite enjoying plenty of special treatment/advantages of being the government. LOL.

But but but it’s muh guvment!

Oh and I’ll just leave this here for ya:

How did FedEx fare against UPS, U.S. Postal Service during the holidays?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Why do you hate your Union brothers so much?

Why do you hate fair competition?

Ok we shouldn’t have a post office because you say so. I get it, no real logic behind it but I guess I get it. With your love of corporations, you’re obviously a pretty far right republican as you dislike big government as well. So I guess you don’t think UPS would drop you down to $17 an hour, give you a HDHP that costs $200 a week and make your pension a 401k w/2% company match at the drop of a hat if it weren’t for your union? Giving corporations all the power in this country is not a good idea.

I have a solution though since everybody is cool with DHL. We dissolve the postal service and have the US government buy a controlling interest in both UPS and FedEx. We merge the employees from all three and then keep what infrastructure we need while ditching the rest. We could create a shipping giant like the world has never seen and call it Federal United Parcel Service. FUPS.

What do you think?

There was nothing factual in there at all nor anything that has to do with why we should or shouldn't have a USPS.

Oh and I’ll just leave this here for ya:

How did FedEx fare against UPS, U.S. Postal Service during the holidays?

You obviously didn't notice the asterisk next to USPS on the chart. Nor did you account for the fact that many of the packages delivered by the post office are last mile from the SurePost/Smart Post. Nor did you consider that FedEx and UPS really don't deliver seven days per week. Nor did you consider the fact that most of the Saturday and Sunday (especially Sunday) volume (Amazon) is delivered at even lower "undercut the competition rates" than the normal accounts during the week. Well, I'll tell you why you didn't address those points. You are either very ignorant of just how things really are or chose to ignore the facts because they get in the way of your love for big bloated government entities that can do whatever they want with no recourse.

 

[Mack37]

You obviously didn't notice the asterisk next to USPS on the chart. Nor did you account for the fact that many of the packages delivered by the post office are last mile from the SurePost/Smart Post. Nor did you consider that FedEx and UPS really don't deliver seven days per week. Nor did you consider the fact that most of the Saturday and Sunday (especially Sunday) volume (Amazon) is delivered at even lower "undercut the competition rates" than the normal accounts during the week. Well, I'll tell you why you didn't address those points. You are either very ignorant of just how things really are or chose to ignore the facts because they get in the way of your love for big bloated government entities that can do whatever they want with no recourse.

No I saw the asterisk next to USPS but without rereading the article I’m pretty sure there was no explanation as to why it was there. Bringing surepost/SmartPost into the argument only shows that Usps was able to deliver your packages on time because you were not able too. What’s that prove? FedEx plans on starting seven day deliveries next year, get with the program Mr. fair competition. Nobody factually knows anything about the Usps/amazon agreement except those on top so we can’t really speak intelligently about it.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

No I saw the asterisk next to USPS but without rereading the article I’m pretty sure there was no explanation as to why it was there. Bringing surepost/SmartPost into the argument only shows that Usps was able to deliver your packages on time because you were not able too. What’s that prove? FedEx plans on starting seven day deliveries next year, get with the program Mr. fair competition. Nobody factually knows anything about the Usps/amazon agreement except those on top so we can’t really speak intelligently about it.

If you really think UPS and FedEx gives SurePost/SmartPost packages to the USPS because they can't get it done on time and not because it saves money then you are a special kind of "have you seen my bassstheball?" retarded.

And one doesn't need to be privy to a fancy board room meeting between USPS and Amazon goons to understand what has happened. Simply understanding who is involved makes it clear that the agreement could have only involved massive undercutting of the competition that, without the unfair and ridiculous government privileges of the USPS, could not have bee accomplished.

 

[Article 3]

No I saw the asterisk next to USPS but without rereading the article I’m pretty sure there was no explanation as to why it was there. Bringing surepost/SmartPost into the argument only shows that Usps was able to deliver your packages on time because you were not able too. What’s that prove? FedEx plans on starting seven day deliveries next year, get with the program Mr. fair competition. Nobody factually knows anything about the Usps/amazon agreement except those on top so we can’t really speak intelligently about it.

The post office on my route seriously complains that we drop too many pkgs on them every day. But it's the only volume that is growing in their system ...they say.

They don't even have to buy license plates for their vehicles and still can't turn a profit. Our strike put them in the black for a couple of years but they couldn't maintain service as promised so people dumped them except for non priority shipments.

DHL was a joke package delivery rival for a short time even with all of their huge assets. They went back to delivering export volume where they could possibly make some money (with subs like A. Austen) and concentrating on warehouse logistics.

I don't begrudge people having compassion for the post office workers or that they try to sell something that doesn't quite mirror a quality tracking or efficient delivery system. I was in a business office today and heard the secretary ranting about how screwed up the post office delivery system is and evidently has been for several weeks there and that was just about their incoming mail.

I cringe when I mail out a letter unless it's a bill payment that gets date stamped and I figure it'll hit the bank in 7-10 days. The post office helps me keep my interest coming in my checking account because they work for me by helping to delay payment from my account.

Ups uses the post office like an escort service but there's no love involved in the relationship.

 

[Mack37]

If you really think UPS and FedEx gives SurePost/SmartPost packages to the USPS because they can't get it done on time and not because it saves money then you are a special kind of "have you seen my bassstheball?" retarded.

And one doesn't need to be privy to a fancy board room meeting between USPS and Amazon goons to understand what has happened. Simply understanding who is involved makes it clear that the agreement could have only involved massive undercutting of the competition that, without the unfair and ridiculous government privileges of the USPS, could not have bee accomplished.

Oh ok, so UPS won’t deliver it without charging the customer an exuberant amount because they don’t have the full resources to provide the service at a decent price while turning a profit they deem acceptable.

And you just highlighted why we have a post office. Every American is entitled to mail at an affordable price. When UPS can’t do it, the postal service does as they don’t have to turn a profit. This is generally rural Americans, poorer American’s and Senior citizens, mostly Republicans if I had to guess. Funny isn’t it?

It’d probably save a lot of money if we ditched welfare, WIC and food stamps too. Who needs that stuff?

My only hope is that they just throw the postal service back on the federal budget so don’t know there finances. Then you can just keep your mouth shut.


Edit** I’ll try to simplify it even further for you. Why do you think the postal service only charges .55 to mail a letter across the country? Because it’s more of a public service than a company. That’s probably the way you should look at it.

 

[Superteeth2478]

Oh ok, so UPS won’t deliver it without charging the customer an exorbitant amount

Fixed that for you. Hope it helps.

 

[Mack37]

Fixed that for you. Hope it helps.

Well both are technically correct but your way is more correct. Thanks

 

[KoennenTiger]

By an exorbitant amount don't you mean the amount it actually costs?

Dude I work for a real company, they can't take my tax dollars to pay my pension and my salary. UPS doesn't charge "exorbitant" amounts. They charge what it costs. The true cost. The real cost. The logos.

So yeah I'm against the post office shipping in every package from China for "free", so the gubmint billionaire thieves can get even richer.

I don't hate my local post man junk mail slave. In fact I like my post man. But yeah dude, you are taking work from my brothers, and from me, and then the billionaires tax me to pay for the postal men to steal my work from me.

It's seriously bad. And yeah, I like you, *you*, but the usps? Burn it all down. To the ground. Thieves for billionaires and for that weird one eye open super bizarre weirdo bezo. No. Stop stealing our work you thief who claims to be my union brother.

 

[Superteeth2478]

Well both are technically correct but your way is more correct. Thanks

Exuberant actually doesn't work, but I was being facetious. It's just something people do on here with the "fixed it for you, hope it helps". No ill intent, though.

 

[Mack37]

By an exorbitant amount don't you mean the amount it actually costs?

Dude I work for a real company, they can't take my tax dollars to pay my pension and my salary. UPS doesn't charge "exorbitant" amounts. They charge what it costs. The true cost. The real cost. The logos.

So yeah I'm against the post office shipping in every package from China for "free", so the gubmint billionaire thieves can get even richer.

I don't hate my local post man junk mail slave. In fact I like my post man. But yeah dude, you are taking work from my brothers, and from me, and then the billionaires tax me to pay for the postal men to steal my work from me.

It's seriously bad. And yeah, I like you, *you*, but the usps? Burn it all down. To the ground. Thieves for billionaires and for that weird one eye open super bizarre weirdo bezo. No. Stop stealing our work you thief who claims to be my union brother.

Well technically you started stealing my work first. So stop stealing my work would ya.

They charge what it costs plus a healthy profit, remember the no profit thing I mentioned.

Postal service makes payments into FERS with money gained from revenue. In fact they never missed a payment up until the whole mandate nonsense. USPS pays UPS to fly mail so technically they are paying your pension and benefits as well. You’re welcome.

Careful with the pension talk. Let’s hope your not asking for a pension bail out from big ole evil government in the next twenty years because it sure looks like central states will be.

***Another edit. Postal service doesn’t take your tax dollars, why do you repeatedly say this? If they take a loan, they have to pay it back. That’s how a loan works.

 

[KoennenTiger]

Well technically you started stealing my work first. So stop stealing my work would ya.

They charge what it costs plus a healthy profit, remember the no profit thing I mentioned.

Postal service makes payments into FERS with money gained from revenue. In fact they never missed a payment up until the whole mandate nonsense. USPS pays UPS to fly mail so technically they are paying your pension and benefits as well. You’re welcome.

Careful with the pension talk. Let’s hope your not asking for a pension bail out from big ole evil government in the next twenty years because it sure looks like central states will be.

***Another edit. Postal service doesn’t take your tax dollars, why do you repeatedly say this? If they take a loan, they have to pay it back. That’s how a loan works.

Well good on ya. Sorry bro just to be factual I have my passions and my passionate beliefs and that small sphere has nothing to do with brown cafe. I do like my junk mail slave brothers, and sister, and I wish you the best.

But no I do not know what you are talking about. And to be frank I will not know, because I only got so much time to care about things.

But if you are my brother in my nation then yeah. I'll talk smack and all that but yeah I still will continue to support you and all labor. Give me back some of those sweet little Jeff bozo little packages though it's pretty rough delivering 10,000 pounds a day. For real I deliver that.

Where is your sympathy?

I can't go slow or mngmt will seriously up my life.

I do like your message though. Labor stick together. It's a good message. You won me over.

How do we build a union? How do we hold a union together? Not by making enemies of our brothers.

Our men in blue, our men in brown. You have a good message.

 

[Two Tokes]

Come on man it's completely impossible for them to just stop using USPS and UPS due to the pure volume they produce. A/C unit's, lawnmowers and all that crap will still go trough UPS. What will hurt them is if UPS starts charging them accordingly per package.

Let's hope that happens a some point
Why give it away just to have the volume if you are not making much
They are delivering some of their crap themselves
let's see how those dip drivers handle a 12 hour day