An offer.. Epilogue

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by quad decade guy, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. quad decade guy

    quad decade guy Active Member

    Bullying, derision, shaming, hostility, questioning voracity. Some far out story? No. Just some of the responses to an offer to put a real face on a senseless, avoidable tragedy.

    How the responses are more about the messenger than the message.

    While my method of communication is perhaps unconventional(whatever that means), I stand by my mission to try as best we all can(collectively) to eliminate unsafe behavior. Especially deliberate , unsafe behavior.

    The questioning of voracity was not expected. To be clear this did happen and to protect the privacy of all involved, certain pieces of information have been kept private. That it hit so close to home was especially painful.

    The factors leading up to this fatality were many. Yet, many of those factors are going on to this day.

    My message is this: Remember the fallen. Do everything WE can to prevent another.
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  2. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    Nobody questioned how much food you ate pal.
    How to Use Veracity vs. voracity Correctly – Grammarist
    Veracity was the word you were looking for
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  3. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    this makes my job at UPS more interesting, I love UPS
  4. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

    Think the OP is complaining about the people on Browncafe with that statement, not UPS
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  5. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    I think the members of BrownCafe give very valuable information and many laughs
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  6. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    There is no place for that type of behavior.
  7. Integrity

    Integrity Binge Poster

    Jokes are one thing. Mistreatment of others is unacceptable, at UPS and here in the BC.
  8. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    It seems like the company has one or two yard deaths a year. Most of them are from somebody standing between the back of a trailer and a dock. Wearing a yellow vest will not make somebody visible in that situation. When the Shifter or Feeder Driver screws up and tries to pull away in the wrong gear its going to end up bad. Drivers speeding in the yard are another cause. I deliver to a former Feeder Specialist supervisor that got backed into a couple of years ago, he was lucky to survive. He is no longer employed with UPS.

    quad decade guy just left out details about date and location of a particular accident. So a lot of members gave him greif about that in my opinion. When tragedies happen they need to be studied and details discussed to turn that event into a learning experience.
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  9. Package Stick

    Package Stick "Send it."

    Supervisors put us in trailers that are still attached to a feeder all the time.
  10. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member

    Why do I get this feeling that you are some excommunicated catholic priest?
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  11. quad decade guy

    quad decade guy Active Member

  12. quad decade guy

    quad decade guy Active Member

    What details do you need to know? No one was interested in preventing and learning...they never get past threatening violence and Article 18.
  13. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    I mean by details exactly what kind of accident this was and what caused it. I know of several instances with people getting killed at the five Atlanta Hubs near me. Most happened behind a trailer door getting opened or sealed up. Usually somebody isn't following procedures and are distracted by something else. Was this caused by a backing vehicle? Somebody speeding in the yard? Somebody hooking up a trailer while talking on their cellphone? I don't care for personally for names or gory details. I'm a 44-year employee and I have always looked out for myself anytime I am in the yard.
  14. BiggieBrown

    BiggieBrown Active Member

    Didn't we literally just see this episode?
    One drama queen thread wasn't enough?
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  15. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    Drive fast as hell. Take chances.

  16. quad decade guy

    quad decade guy Active Member

    Backing shifter. Victim wearing ear buds, no vest. Standing in a dock door space on the ground outside.

    Your perspective is refreshing. Most responses never address the behavior on the yard. Their mission is to deflect and belittle. What I really(really) find baffling is the overriding goal of continuing the reckless behavior at any cost. You see this response almost uniformly. I truly believe because they are are the type individuals that exhibit such behavior. Note the anger. In the end, (I believe) it's up to all of us(collectively)(Mgt./employee) to make the yard as safe as practical. Condoning unsafe behavior(that's what it is) leads to tragedy. And yet, this considered "drama queen". And yet, when you have a laundry list of fatalities, all of that is just chalked up to drama. Would love for someone to logically explain this.
  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Darwin.... never loses.
  18. MECH-lift

    MECH-lift Union Brother

    purely avoidable accident
  19. DumbTruckDriver

    DumbTruckDriver Allergic to cardboard.

    As sad as that is, a vest would not have prevented that fatality.
  20. quad decade guy

    quad decade guy Active Member

    Oh? Sure about that?