An offer.. Epilogue

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
Bullying, derision, shaming, hostility, questioning voracity. Some far out story? No. Just some of the responses to an offer to put a real face on a senseless, avoidable tragedy.

How the responses are more about the messenger than the message.

While my method of communication is perhaps unconventional(whatever that means), I stand by my mission to try as best we all can(collectively) to eliminate unsafe behavior. Especially deliberate , unsafe behavior.

The questioning of voracity was not expected. To be clear this did happen and to protect the privacy of all involved, certain pieces of information have been kept private. That it hit so close to home was especially painful.

The factors leading up to this fatality were many. Yet, many of those factors are going on to this day.

My message is this: Remember the fallen. Do everything WE can to prevent another.
 

scratch

Least Best Moderator
Staff member
It seems like the company has one or two yard deaths a year. Most of them are from somebody standing between the back of a trailer and a dock. Wearing a yellow vest will not make somebody visible in that situation. When the Shifter or Feeder Driver screws up and tries to pull away in the wrong gear its going to end up bad. Drivers speeding in the yard are another cause. I deliver to a former Feeder Specialist supervisor that got backed into a couple of years ago, he was lucky to survive. He is no longer employed with UPS.

quad decade guy just left out details about date and location of a particular accident. So a lot of members gave him greif about that in my opinion. When tragedies happen they need to be studied and details discussed to turn that event into a learning experience.
 

Package Stick

"Send it."
It seems like the company has one or two yard deaths a year. Most of them are from somebody standing between the back of a trailer and a dock. Wearing a yellow vest will not make somebody visible in that situation. When the Shifter or Feeder Driver screws up and tries to pull away in the wrong gear its going to end up bad. Drivers speeding in the yard are another cause. I deliver to a former Feeder Specialist supervisor that got backed into a couple of years ago, he was lucky to survive. He is no longer employed with UPS.

quad decade guy just left out details about date and location of a particular accident. So a lot of members gave him greif about that in my opinion. When tragedies happen they need to be studied and details discussed to turn that event into a learning experience.
Supervisors put us in trailers that are still attached to a feeder all the time.
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
It seems like the company has one or two yard deaths a year. Most of them are from somebody standing between the back of a trailer and a dock. Wearing a yellow vest will not make somebody visible in that situation. When the Shifter or Feeder Driver screws up and tries to pull away in the wrong gear its going to end up bad. Drivers speeding in the yard are another cause. I deliver to a former Feeder Specialist supervisor that got backed into a couple of years ago, he was lucky to survive. He is no longer employed with UPS.

quad decade guy just left out details about date and location of a particular accident. So a lot of members gave him greif about that in my opinion. When tragedies happen they need to be studied and details discussed to turn that event into a learning experience.


What details do you need to know? No one was interested in preventing and learning...they never get past threatening violence and Article 18.
 

scratch

Least Best Moderator
Staff member
What details do you need to know? No one was interested in preventing and learning...they never get past threatening violence and Article 18.

I mean by details exactly what kind of accident this was and what caused it. I know of several instances with people getting killed at the five Atlanta Hubs near me. Most happened behind a trailer door getting opened or sealed up. Usually somebody isn't following procedures and are distracted by something else. Was this caused by a backing vehicle? Somebody speeding in the yard? Somebody hooking up a trailer while talking on their cellphone? I don't care for personally for names or gory details. I'm a 44-year employee and I have always looked out for myself anytime I am in the yard.
 

BiggieBrown

Well-Known Member
Bullying, derision, shaming, hostility, questioning voracity. Some far out story? No. Just some of the responses to an offer to put a real face on a senseless, avoidable tragedy.

How the responses are more about the messenger than the message.

While my method of communication is perhaps unconventional(whatever that means), I stand by my mission to try as best we all can(collectively) to eliminate unsafe behavior. Especially deliberate , unsafe behavior.

The questioning of voracity was not expected. To be clear this did happen and to protect the privacy of all involved, certain pieces of information have been kept private. That it hit so close to home was especially painful.

The factors leading up to this fatality were many. Yet, many of those factors are going on to this day.

My message is this: Remember the fallen. Do everything WE can to prevent another.

Didn't we literally just see this episode?
One drama queen thread wasn't enough?
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Bullying, derision, shaming, hostility, questioning voracity. Some far out story? No. Just some of the responses to an offer to put a real face on a senseless, avoidable tragedy.

How the responses are more about the messenger than the message.

While my method of communication is perhaps unconventional(whatever that means), I stand by my mission to try as best we all can(collectively) to eliminate unsafe behavior. Especially deliberate , unsafe behavior.

The questioning of voracity was not expected. To be clear this did happen and to protect the privacy of all involved, certain pieces of information have been kept private. That it hit so close to home was especially painful.

The factors leading up to this fatality were many. Yet, many of those factors are going on to this day.

My message is this: Remember the fallen. Do everything WE can to prevent another.
Drive fast as hell. Take chances.

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quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
I mean by details exactly what kind of accident this was and what caused it. I know of several instances with people getting killed at the five Atlanta Hubs near me. Most happened behind a trailer door getting opened or sealed up. Usually somebody isn't following procedures and are distracted by something else. Was this caused by a backing vehicle? Somebody speeding in the yard? Somebody hooking up a trailer while talking on their cellphone? I don't care for personally for names or gory details. I'm a 44-year employee and I have always looked out for myself anytime I am in the yard.


Backing shifter. Victim wearing ear buds, no vest. Standing in a dock door space on the ground outside.

Your perspective is refreshing. Most responses never address the behavior on the yard. Their mission is to deflect and belittle. What I really(really) find baffling is the overriding goal of continuing the reckless behavior at any cost. You see this response almost uniformly. I truly believe because they are are the type individuals that exhibit such behavior. Note the anger. In the end, (I believe) it's up to all of us(collectively)(Mgt./employee) to make the yard as safe as practical. Condoning unsafe behavior(that's what it is) leads to tragedy. And yet, this considered "drama queen". And yet, when you have a laundry list of fatalities, all of that is just chalked up to drama. Would love for someone to logically explain this.
 

DumbTruckDriver

Allergic to cardboard.
Backing shifter. Victim wearing ear buds, no vest. Standing in a dock door space on the ground outside.

Your perspective is refreshing. Most responses never address the behavior on the yard. Their mission is to deflect and belittle. What I really(really) find baffling is the overriding goal of continuing the reckless behavior at any cost. You see this response almost uniformly. I truly believe because they are are the type individuals that exhibit such behavior. Note the anger. In the end, (I believe) it's up to all of us(collectively)(Mgt./employee) to make the yard as safe as practical. Condoning unsafe behavior(that's what it is) leads to tragedy. And yet, this considered "drama queen". And yet, when you have a laundry list of fatalities, all of that is just chalked up to drama. Would love for someone to logically explain this.
As sad as that is, a vest would not have prevented that fatality.
 
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