Any other locals signing petitions? -On topic

[zubenelgenubi]

Me too IF the rule says it Has to be ratified.
BUT, if it says Hoffa can ratify OR renegotiate, he damn well should renegotiate.
And I'm still not sure which is true..

This is why I say it's not just the members. You can maybe blame members who didn't vote, but no one has an answer when I ask how you hold non-voting members accountable. Blame doesn't do much good without accountability. The leadership had a choice. The members who did their part should be listened to, and most certainly should not be saddled with a bad contract just because other members did not vote.

 

[Benben]

Have we heard anything new from the international in regards to the vote...?? Did they officially say that the contract was ratified???

DT said it was ratified within 2 mins of the anouncement of the vote totals on the new Teamster Black Friday

Volunteer to help your Local organize new members.

And it's embarrassing.

-Bug-

You are kidding right? You honestly think we would advocate joining a union that refuses to listen to, or respect it's members? When all it is interested in is the God Almighty Dollar?

BUG, put the damn crack pipe down, it will be ok, the world will not end!

!

 

[Benben]

UPS members think.... they are the only Teamsters with a contract.

And this, my friend is why the UPS members need a new and different union representing them!

 

[zubenelgenubi]

And this, my friend is why the UPS members need a new and different union representing them!

My vote is IBEW. Those guys got their act together.

 

[Foamer Pyle]

People should just stop, with all this SJW internet Antifa nonsense.


Sign a petition, start a "go fund me" account to hire an attorney, march on the

IBT blowing whistles.... this is descending into lunacy.


Get off your phone, the internet, and your game console, and show up at a

Union meeting. Volunteer to help your Local organize new members.


The members lack of interest and ignorance.... is on full display.

And it's embarrassing.



-Bug-

I won’t volunteer any time to a Union that didn’t Listen to the people that voted. The union leadership is weak, and in UPS pockets, end of story.

 

[Rack em]

DT said it was ratified within 2 mins of the anouncement of the vote totals on the new Teamster Black Friday



You are kidding right? You honestly think we would advocate joining a union that refuses to listen to, or respect it's members? When all it is interested in is the God Almighty Dollar?

BUG, put the damn crack pipe down, it will be ok, the world will not end!

!

EXACTLY! As soon as the results were shown DT came on saying that it would ratified because of the 2/3 rule. You can't tell me that wasn't the plan the whole time because those were the first words out of the fat POS mouth!

 

[Kicked Your Dog]

Me too IF the rule says it Has to be ratified.
BUT, if it says Hoffa can ratify OR renegotiate, he damn well should renegotiate.
And I'm still not sure which is true..

We’re not renegotiating anything in the West. We voted to approve the Master and Supplementals. It’s a shame the locals on the east coast didn’t negotiate the language we did. Our local reps explained the Master and our superior supplemental proposals to the membership numerous times through numerous meetings and conferences. If anything, Eastern leadership is torpedoing our solidarity with all the infighting, misinformation and lack of organization. But, that’s why the Central States Pension is a joke and their hungry eyes are looking at the Weatern States strength and security. It’s local leadership, not national leadership causing these problems.

 

[DELACROIX]

You got to be kidding..There is no SOLIDARITY when people are being left behind and our NATIONAL so called leadership sells out.

Don't worry that Central States Pension problem will eventually start biting you guys in the West with the next contract. Divide and Conquer..

You are right it is a joke..

 

[Doubleparkedrunner]

Tyler this,Tyler for GP, wildcat,gofundme, Lawyer Up..I did not realize how fast the IQ of the membership was falling..

Ron Carey this , Ron Carey that , have had two tier system for decades ... , 50% this , 2/3 majority that , Final Offer this , Forced Supplements that, 22.4 this , no 9.5 that , when work is available , 2% insufficient inflationary raise , no catch up raises.... I did not realize how fast the arrogance AND ignorance the IBT was RISING pertaining to its members wishes ...

 

[Doubleparkedrunner]

We’re not renegotiating anything in the West. We voted to approve the Master and Supplementals. It’s a shame the locals on the east coast didn’t negotiate the language we did. Our local reps explained the Master and our superior supplemental proposals to the membership numerous times through numerous meetings and conferences. If anything, Eastern leadership is torpedoing our solidarity with all the infighting, misinformation and lack of organization. But, that’s why the Central States Pension is a joke and their hungry eyes are looking at the Weatern States strength and security. It’s local leadership, not national leadership causing these problems.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[Doubleparkedrunner]

And this, my friend is why the UPS members need a new and different union representing them!

Maybe the teamsters are juggling too many hats ?

 

[babboo25]

Buckle up get in that brown truck. And go to work . There will be NO strike. Adjust your bills to reflect less O.T
. Thanks Teamsters..

Less OT? That’s what most wanted, careful what you wish for cuz ya got it.

 

[Inthegame]

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thank you Martin.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Maybe the teamsters are juggling too many hats ?

You cant juggle hats and carry Abney's golf clubs at the same time. That's impossible.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with their voice not being heard...

The members voice was heard by the IBT.

The majority said "we don't care".

Member complacency is a direct result of teamster leadership.

"You can lead a Teamster to knowledge, but you can't make him think."

-scb-


There will be several veteran members, who will remember where this came from.

You honestly think we would advocate joining a union that refuses to listen to, or respect it's members?

And this, my friend is why the UPS members need a new and different union representing them!

Never gonna happen.


You must have not been around.... when that was already tried.



-Bug-

 

[Bubblehead]

"You can lead a Teamster to knowledge, but you can't make him think."

-scb-


There will be several veteran members, who will remember where this came from.

Sam Bucalo???

 

[over9five]

Sam Bucalo???

Stephen somebody....
Big playa (antagonist) on Teamsternet

 

[UnconTROLLed]

wow scb, there's a name from the past. Thankfully

UPS'ers really do need to kick the Teamsters out, though.

 

[Brownslave688]

The members voice was heard by the IBT.

The majority said "we don't care".




-Bug-

So those that don't care voice is more important than those that do.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Stephen somebody....
Big playa (antagonist) on Teamsternet

See....


There are "real" UPS Teamster vets here.