Any Tips to Improve time allowance????

Ms.PacMan

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Take your hour lunch and scan your packages at the delivery location (NOT at the truck) and then stop complete immediately. You will be amazed at how much better you'll show.

If your time study is just bad there is probably nothing you can do.
 

Grey

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They can't do anything besides an OJS which has never happened in our center. I've only heard about it on here.
 

QualityLoads

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Signatures, OCAs, driver follow ups, miles, scan random street pick ups, recording over 70s, all add to time allowance.

Im not sure about how these affect time allowance. Putting in floor number, send agains, left ats/redirect.

The most effective has to be signatures. I can have a route with 120 stops and ill DR 5 (only shipper release) at most. Or ill do a route with 175 stops and DR everything thats not business. My numbers are always better in the route that has 120 almost all signatures. The 175 DR everything route i always have :censored2: numbers.

The best strategy for me to get signatures is honk the horn as soon as you pull up to the house and watch them come running to your car to sign, save you a few foot steps, and hand you an ice cold bottled water.
 

Ring Sport

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Know of a guy that was in a similar situation. They kept riding with him and couldn't find anything wrong with his methods. And production didn't change when management rode with him. Eventually his numbers changed over night to be more realistic. Moral of the story is just do your job as though they are with you and eventually they will figure it out, hopefully.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Worrying about time allowances is kind of like trying to find the optimum strategy for playing a slot machine at a casino. There isn't one. The time allowances that UPS has implemented were never intended to be fair or realistic in the first place. They were intended, as a whole, to create a "standard" that can only be met by working off of the clock. They extract revenue from the work group (in the form of free labor) in the same manner that slot machines extract revenue from the players. Yes there are routes that can "make bonus" in the same way that there are slot machines that sometimes "pay out" but ultimately both systems are mathematically designed to guarantee that the house will win.
 

scratch

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Staff member
Most lost time is usually in the back of the package car looking for packages. ORION has made that situation worse, I'm behind before I even get to my first stop now.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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My sup keeps telling me I am running almost 2hr over every morning...I dont get it because Im only working 9hr day most days...he said to me...."are you putting in your overweight's?"... not sure what that has to do with anything, so are there any tips you vets can give this crappy driver(sups words) ??
You are making real bonus (OT). Why would you want to shave any time off? LOL!

But seriously just refuse to even have discussions about their numbers without a steward present and if that happens just tell them to brown up and show you how it's done. But make sure they follow the methods too. Otherwise there is no point. Someone before you not following the methods is likely why your allowances are so low. That or IE just did their usual meddling to try and get people to speed up.
 

toonertoo

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You are making real bonus (OT). Why would you want to shave any time off? LOL!

But seriously just refuse to even have discussions about their numbers without a steward present and if that happens just tell them to brown up and show you how it's done. But make sure they follow the methods too. Otherwise there is no point. Someone before you not following the methods is likely why your allowances are so low. That or IE just did their usual meddling to try and get people to speed up.

I feel our last time study was skewed because they had been ragging every one, even most bonus drivers who run some routes, and usually scratch or close but on these routes an hour or more over. No way could they swallow the abuse they have given these drivers so they stayed the same. So they are still eating it, because math is math, and it takes what it takes.
The other day they brought out a sheet to show me where I was losing time.....There were 4 stops where I lost over 5 minutes. They were dolly stops heavy stuff, the yellow picture says something like stop, lift with care. That was all they could show me, yet I was 1.80 late. Something like selection time 20 minutes, so I am assuming thats from the time the door opens til it closes. Well when its 95, if I got a chance to leave both doors open while delivering at a dock, you betcha I am doing that. And I dont think 20 minutes is excessive. JMHO
So if its not over allow, its miles, its time between stops, its trace, its idle time, its slow customers, its the fact that unless you have a bunch of over 70s and you put them in, which literally takes as much time to put in as you get for an allowance, its a crap shoot. Quit worrying about it, work your hardest, safest, take care of the customer, document what you think slows you down. Enjoy making money for them and you.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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I feel our last time study was skewed because they had been ragging every one, even most bonus drivers who run some routes, and usually scratch or close but on these routes an hour or more over. No way could they swallow the abuse they have given these drivers so they stayed the same. So they are still eating it, because math is math, and it takes what it takes.
The other day they brought out a sheet to show me where I was losing time.....There were 4 stops where I lost over 5 minutes. They were dolly stops heavy stuff, the yellow picture says something like stop, lift with care. That was all they could show me, yet I was 1.80 late. Something like selection time 20 minutes, so I am assuming thats from the time the door opens til it closes. Well when its 95, if I got a chance to leave both doors open while delivering at a dock, you betcha I am doing that. And I dont think 20 minutes is excessive. JMHO
So if its not over allow, its miles, its time between stops, its trace, its idle time, its slow customers, its the fact that unless you have a bunch of over 70s and you put them in, which literally takes as much time to put in as you get for an allowance, its a crap shoot. Quit worrying about it, work your hardest, safest, take care of the customer, document what you think slows you down. Enjoy making money for them and you.

Here they have been looking at time in the truck metrics. The solution to that is very simple.....tell the preloaders to face labels up, out, or forward instead of telling them to hide them. And if they are going to insist on using hand written numbers then they better be legible. They rarely bring up metrics with me. And when they do it's usually a newer supervisor. LOL. I guess they have all realized that I truly don't care about their numbers and won't get all bent out of shape like many people do when confronted about them. But....I also won't lay down on them either. Or maybe what I do everyday is equal to what many other drivers do when they lay down? LOL!
 

FrigidFTSup

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They can't do anything besides an OJS which has never happened in our center. I've only heard about it on here.
They probably do the virtual one on you and enter it in your timecard after you punch out. We have to do so many a month.
 

bumped

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I had 4 Orion rides. Three of which were "lock in" rides. My center manager didn't like the first or second lock ins, so I had a third lock in when they finally gave up. I asked for a copy of that last ride when I was given the copy to sign. Now, when I'm summoned to the center manager's office to talk about production I bring that lock in ride paper with me. The conversation usually ends there.
 
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