Bidding while on disability

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Mr.Blonde, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. Mr.Blonde

    Mr.Blonde Active Member

    In the southern region are you allowed to bid while on disability? One section says you cant engage in gainful employment. Would bidding on permanent routes be entailed into “gainful employment?”

    Another part says only those package car drivers in the building may bid. If you are on disability are you still considered in the building?
     
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I think gainful employment refers to having a second job. You can't collect disability and work another job.
     
  3. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Gainful employment means you are taking leave from UPS to work another job. Most locals have a rule for bidding while on disability or comp. Some say you can't unless you have a projected back to work date because employees and the company take up good routes for a whole year or good portion. Example; driver on comp bids a route while out with bad back. He then needs surgery and stays out rehabbing it. They are probably out the whole year while a good route goes to a junior cover guy for the whole year when a senior guy could have gotten it for the year. I see both sides but our own guys make it difficult.
     
  4. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Talk to your steward, but HERE you would not bid, but you would be able to bump where your seniority allows when you return to work.
     
  5. Mr.Blonde

    Mr.Blonde Active Member

    So where you’re at if everyone that’s locked in to what ever route they bidded on for however many years, the senior driver coming off disability would be able to bump whom ever they wanted if they wanted a permanent bid route?
     
  6. Mr.Blonde

    Mr.Blonde Active Member

    When I first tried to go to driving school it was all planned out a month away. Tore my labrum in the unload and went on comp. I was opted out of going because in my region they said you cant bid on anything for promotional purposes because im not actually at work.
     
  7. Mr.Blonde

    Mr.Blonde Active Member

    So “Gainful employment” has nothing to do with any type of work on the inside? I agree its a doubled edge sword. Not fair for a 15+ year driver to possibly get the shaft when a 2 year full time swing driver like myself gets a cake route.
     
  8. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Correct.
     
  9. Wontmake9.5

    Wontmake9.5 My job is fun

    Last time we bid a driver was out injured and they let him bid what route he wanted. Also in southern region. So unless they changed it with the new contract I think you can..
     
  10. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    Gainful employment means you are actually doing something to earn a paycheck. Work related activities, such as bidding, checking in with management to keep them up to date with your status, even picking vacations, aren't gainful employment.
     
  11. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    He’s still in the books, he still bids.

    I’m a steward in the southern and got that strait from my BA.

    Center is able to put a temporary bid up for until that driver returns.
     
  12. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I believe I read their was a time limit on that though. Something like 45 days.
     
  13. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    Not what I’ve been told
     
  14. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    My BA specifically told me to tell management to put a temp bud up until he returns or retires.

    This is to prevent them from having to put it on the weekly bid sheet.
     
  15. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Different supplements, different rules.
     
  16. Just A UPS Guy

    Just A UPS Guy Active Member

    We have lifetime bids, so our disability guys still bid.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • List